Speaking as a lawyer it is obviously baloney

Not quite on a par with “45 minutes from destruction” but in that postcode

It is a paper thin justification for a change of mind after serious US displeasure has been expressed

Iran poses no more serious a threat to British interests today than it did 48 hours ago and this is just desperate intellectual contortion to try to justify what he’s doing

The facts are (a) that we are so deeply embedded into the US military structure on this side of the Atlantic, because it has always been assumed that we would work together, that it really pisses them off if we don’t co-operate, and (b) that for a host of military, economic and diplomatic reasons, we can’t afford to piss them off

That’s why Starmer changed his mind and the “we’re defending ourselves” spin is just bulls**t

Posted By: Old Git on March 2nd 2026 at 12:49:15

Message Thread

Trump has told the Telegraph that Starmer took too long to give US access to UK bases (General Chat) - Klobo04, Mar 2, 11:17:17
- Starmer should tell Trump to take a hike . . (General Chat) - canary_wharf, Mar 2, 13:25:24
  - Corbyn and Starmer makes me want a sick bag. (n/m) (General Chat) - Biggles, Mar 2, 19:17:24
  - ^ Jeremy Corbyn (n/m) (General Chat) - jamesward, Mar 2, 13:26:44
    - you leave Jizzer alone! (n/m) (General Chat) - Lentil Weaver, Mar 2, 13:28:08
- Yea Trump doesn't have a lot of time for the legal process (n/m) (General Chat) - Lentil Weaver, Mar 2, 11:31:48
- Was probably also worried about votes (General Chat) - SCC 28, Mar 2, 11:29:53
  - Pensioners would have been all for it (n/m) (General Chat) - Legacy Fan, Mar 2, 12:14:27
- Pretty fair concerns and sound decision making (n/m) (General Chat) - Ulf jr, Mar 2, 11:27:33
  - Which decision was sound? (General Chat) - Old Git, Mar 2, 11:32:50
    - The secision to not give access until Iran broke international law (n/m) (General Chat) - Ulf jr, Mar 2, 11:33:37
      - Absolutely. (n/m) (General Chat) - Legacy Fan, Mar 2, 11:55:42
      - you mean until the British base in Bahrain was hit ..... (General Chat) - ghostof barry butler, Mar 2, 11:44:07
        
        Which is the correct way to do things. (General Chat) - Legacy Fan, Mar 2, 11:56:14
        
        They are two separate requests (General Chat) - Klobo04, Mar 2, 11:51:40
        
        100% this (n/m) (General Chat) - Ulf jr, Mar 2, 11:58:34
        
        It’s odd how difficult this is to understand, eh? (n/m) (General Chat) - Legacy Fan, Mar 2, 11:57:11
        
        Speaking as a lawyer it is obviously baloney (General Chat) - Old Git, Mar 2, 12:49:15
        
        Speaking as a lawyer, no it's not (General Chat) - CWC, Mar 2, 15:17:32
        
        I don't see it that way. Declining to start a conflict but acting to protect your assets (General Chat) - The Gaffer, Mar 2, 13:16:03
        
        Speaking as not a lawyer (General Chat) - LetsAllHaveA, Mar 2, 13:07:35
        
        so we should invoke article 5 then (General Chat) - Tombs, Mar 2, 13:18:01
        
        Yes and 300 British servicemen were at the Bahrain base hit by them too (General Chat) - Legacy Fan, Mar 2, 13:16:21
        
        One must never change one's mind. Sign of weakness. (n/m) (General Chat) - APB, Mar 2, 12:00:39
        
        As with most things in society these days (General Chat) - Klobo04, Mar 2, 12:00:22
        
        Nope, Manning was definitely shit (n/m) (General Chat) - jamesward, Mar 2, 12:06:25
        
        *Klobo performs u-turn* (General Chat) - Klobo04, Mar 2, 12:07:22
        
        *Klobo performs u-turn on his u-turn* (General Chat) - Klobo04, Mar 2, 12:13:30
        
        Cyprus you mean (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Mar 2, 11:44:58
        
        Bahrain was US base, but had British servicemen there too (n/m) (General Chat) - Legacy Fan, Mar 2, 13:31:02
      - Hi Morgan (n/m) (General Chat) - Old Git, Mar 2, 11:34:59
- To be fair by Starmer’s standards that was a very fast u-turn (n/m) (General Chat) - Old Git, Mar 2, 11:21:18
  - Did he U-turn? (General Chat) - Legacy Fan, Mar 2, 11:55:03
    - Ha Ha, always a first (n/m) (General Chat) - Men without hats, Mar 2, 14:53:00
  - If you do them fast and often enough, do you end up spinning? (n/m) (General Chat) - paulg, Mar 2, 11:49:25

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