You're absolutely right about the security

But I don't agree about the relevance of being more likely to die of an accident. As a society we all know and tolerate the risks of accidents. That's life.

But none of us tolerates or accepts the risk of being deliberately killed. That remains shocking and awful. When the motive is some pre-medieval religious feud which most of us don't even understand, let alone sympathise with, it's even worse.

Posted By: Old Git on December 14th 2025 at 12:00:44

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Well done to that fella taking out the terrorist on Bondi Beach (General Chat) - phrankin, Dec 14, 10:14:49
- Real life GTA (General Chat) - ParrotPuncher, Dec 14, 13:06:45
- Now been named (General Chat) - norwaay, Dec 14, 12:53:20
  - Then quite clear why he didn't want to be found holding the gun, eh? (General Chat) - Legacy Fan, Dec 14, 12:56:03
    - Edward Crabtree is his name apparently (n/m) (General Chat) - phrankin, Dec 14, 13:01:06
      - Yes, I saw that too. (General Chat) - norwaay, Dec 14, 13:30:01
        
        Well there were two involved in the act of bravery - the first (General Chat) - Legacy Fan, Dec 14, 14:04:47
        
        Oh ffs (General Chat) - norwaay, Dec 14, 14:16:51
        
        Well this kind of thing only needs to trick a couple of idiots like (General Chat) - Legacy Fan, Dec 14, 16:18:34
        
        He did a great job regardless (n/m) (General Chat) - phrankin, Dec 14, 14:03:53
        
        Regardless of the fact that you fell for an AI generated story created to suck in dopes. (n/m) (General Chat) - norwaay, Dec 14, 14:15:17
        
        Not sure where the hostility came from - but ok. (n/m) (General Chat) - phrankin, Dec 14, 14:22:31
        
        No hostility, just the most basic, kindergarten level scrutiny of your 'Edward Crabtree'. (n/m) (General Chat) - norwaay, Dec 14, 14:25:09
        
        Yeah, misinformation spreads fast with breaking news. Thanks for the fact-check. (n/m) (General Chat) - phrankin, Dec 14, 14:32:22
        
        Yes, it spreads fast because of idiots (General Chat) - Cable Gap Pioneer, Dec 14, 18:00:31
        
        Corrections are fine. Abuse isn't. (n/m) (General Chat) - phrankin, Dec 14, 18:21:00
        
        Haha (n/m) (General Chat) - jamesward, Dec 14, 14:21:25
- Aussies innit.... (General Chat) - DrDublin, Dec 14, 11:33:38
- Amazed he resisted blowing the bastard's brains out (n/m) (General Chat) - paulg, Dec 14, 11:04:09
  - To have that bravery *and* restraint is pretty incredible. (General Chat) - norwaay, Dec 14, 12:20:26
    - I'd say he was lucky (General Chat) - Legacy Fan, Dec 14, 12:35:57
      - I thought the same - he feared the coppers might shoot him (n/m) (General Chat) - phrankin, Dec 14, 12:40:10
    - You’re used to killing things with guns though (General Chat) - jamesward, Dec 14, 12:24:06
      - 😂 (n/m) (General Chat) - norwaay, Dec 14, 12:32:51
    - Risky business not shooting the guy - he could have had another weapon (n/m) (General Chat) - phrankin, Dec 14, 12:22:02
- that thin line between ... (General Chat) - ghostof barry butler, Dec 14, 10:36:02
  - It’s a line you unfailingly manage to be on the wrong side of. (General Chat) - Snakepit Divorceee, Dec 14, 13:10:13
  - I think the world is fully awake (General Chat) - Old Git, Dec 14, 11:50:55
    - be a good idea if everyone in the world met up in a big tent and sat down to discuss it (General Chat) - Tombs, Dec 14, 12:26:21
      - Accident book keepers (General Chat) - Old Git, Dec 14, 12:31:11
    - Some are rather more snoozy than others, it must be said (n/m) (General Chat) - paulg, Dec 14, 11:59:59
  - Wake up and do what you crippling bore? (n/m) (General Chat) - Lentil Weaver, Dec 14, 11:35:05
  - What is the world supposed to do about terrorists? (n/m) (General Chat) - jamesward, Dec 14, 11:23:17
    - Keep away from them/keep them away from yourself (n/m) (General Chat) - paulg, Dec 14, 11:44:41
      - It's a testament to security that terrorism rarely occurs. It's a one off. A shock (General Chat) - Lentil Weaver, Dec 14, 11:53:51
        
        Ridiculous post, comparing terrorism to car accidents. Idiot. (n/m) (General Chat) - Men without hats, Dec 14, 13:12:27
        
        I'm comparing the chances of you dying. I wasn't comparing terrorism to car accidents (General Chat) - Lentil Weaver, Dec 14, 15:05:13
        
        Murder rate in London (General Chat) - Legacy Fan, Dec 14, 12:32:05
        
        Shipman's victims weren't in London. (n/m) (General Chat) - norwaay, Dec 14, 12:35:38
        
        Indeed - copied and pasted. It is just the text for 2003 figures and rightly doesn't (General Chat) - Legacy Fan, Dec 14, 12:42:52
        
        Note that this does not contradict your message, but support it. It is more (General Chat) - Legacy Fan, Dec 14, 12:34:12
        
        Not just the threat of war (General Chat) - APB, Dec 14, 15:39:34
        
        Lack of social cohesion is becoming a serious issue (General Chat) - phrankin, Dec 14, 12:52:02
        
        Well, as the figures show, clearly not (n/m) (General Chat) - Legacy Fan, Dec 14, 13:00:14
        
        You're absolutely right about the security (General Chat) - Old Git, Dec 14, 12:00:44
        
        But I live in London so that's not at all comforting (n/m) (General Chat) - paulg, Dec 14, 11:56:12
        
        Security can largely keep you safe from known terrorist cells (General Chat) - Lentil Weaver, Dec 14, 11:57:39
        
        Lots of unknown terrorists though (n/m) (General Chat) - Old Git, Dec 14, 12:02:04
        
        How many? (General Chat) - Legacy Fan, Dec 14, 12:51:45
        
        Didn't MI5 have like 40,000 on the terror watch list (General Chat) - phrankin, Dec 14, 14:14:58
        
        Most of them are probably innocent old protesters (n/m) (General Chat) - Lentil Weaver, Dec 14, 15:23:30
        
        If only that were true (n/m) (General Chat) - phrankin, Dec 14, 15:58:30
    - Cull (n/m) (General Chat) - Charles21, Dec 14, 11:38:08
    - I think we all know where this is going (n/m) (General Chat) - Lentil Weaver, Dec 14, 11:35:59
      - It’s classic GOBB (General Chat) - jamesward, Dec 14, 12:23:31
        
        Looks that way (n/m) (General Chat) - Lentil Weaver, Dec 14, 14:33:29

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