There has been a real rise in anti-English feeling in Scotland

I'm a Scot by blood, brought up in England but with holidays every year in Scotland and lots of family there. (I used to feel entirely English but am now a bit more confused!)

I noticed throughout the 80s hostility growing towards me because I have an English accent. I honestly think it was connected with Mrs Thatcher - her anti-union policies were felt keenly in the old-fashioned heavy manufacturing industries, and that affected Scotland disproportionately. The Scots have resented the English for a very very long time, but Mrs T seemed to get them going in a major way all over again.

It's obvious why a "minority" nation (in terms of population and economic power) should feel more bitterly and express more loudly its dislike of a perceived "oppressor" nation. It's because they (so they believe) have something to gripe about!

Posted By: Old Git on June 15th 2006 at 13:05:51

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"...the arrogance of the English media, fans and players..." (Other Football) - Steve in Holland, Jun 15, 12:26:08
- Ignorance my arse... (Other Football) - Small, Jun 15, 12:39:42
  - Yeah they inflict it on me. And the Germans and the Belgians. (n/m) (Other Football) - Steve in Holland, Jun 15, 13:05:33
    - Well I think Holland could actually win it (n/m) (Other Football) - Small, Jun 15, 13:09:42
      - Yes, and they think we could. (Other Football) - Steve in Holland, Jun 15, 13:11:09
  - how do we?????? (Other Football) - mr carra, Jun 15, 12:45:49
  - Do we? Must have missed that (n/m) (Other Football) - duke of york, Jun 15, 12:43:19
- Also, hardly any English fans actually really believe we're (Other Football) - duke of york, Jun 15, 12:31:04
  - this is the bizarre thing (Other Football) - mr carra, Jun 15, 12:37:36
    - Yes but the Irish and Scots media convince them we all expect to win. Irony ? (n/m) (Other Football) - Steve in Holland, Jun 15, 13:06:08
- 100% agree (Other Football) - duke of york, Jun 15, 12:29:32
  - Can't you just rise above our pathetic media? (n/m) (Other Football) - Small, Jun 15, 12:40:40
    - Don't read our pathetic media (Other Football) - duke of york, Jun 15, 12:44:50
      - Does being English and proud mean having to dislike the Scots? (n/m) (Other Football) - Small, Jun 15, 12:45:54
        
        No - I think you've missed the point (Other Football) - duke of york, Jun 15, 12:49:00
        
        Well i want England to do well... (Other Football) - Small, Jun 15, 12:59:47
        
        There has been a real rise in anti-English feeling in Scotland (Other Football) - Old Git, Jun 15, 13:05:51
        
        No it's cos they grew steadily more shit at football while we got better (n/m) (Other Football) - Steve in Holland, Jun 15, 13:08:56
        
        That didn't help. And at rugby too (well during the late 80s and then 90s) (n/m) (Other Football) - Old Git, Jun 15, 13:26:15
        
        more relevantly you should turn that around (n/m) (Other Football) - mr carra, Jun 15, 12:47:26
        
        Why? It's a myth (n/m) (Other Football) - Small, Jun 15, 12:48:02
        
        Only the twats who thought Braveheart was real hate the English (n/m) (Other Football) - Small, Jun 15, 12:48:47
        
        Hating the English and hating the English football team are different things (n/m) (Other Football) - Steve in Holland, Jun 15, 13:07:00
  - re the German flag (Other Football) - mr carra, Jun 15, 12:33:31
    - Here... (Other Football) - Clare, Jun 15, 13:23:42
    - No idea - but they don't wave it much (n/m) (Other Football) - duke of york, Jun 15, 12:35:02
      - they seemed to be waving it a lot last night (n/m) (Other Football) - mr carra, Jun 15, 12:35:43
        
        Meant on cars, out of windows etc (Other Football) - duke of york, Jun 15, 12:45:07
        
        No they are just the same...a collegue of mine was moaning... (Other Football) - Swiss Yellow, Jun 15, 13:02:44
        
        perhaps (ironically given that they're German) they have more taste (n/m) (Other Football) - mr carra, Jun 15, 12:46:38
        
        Haha - yeah maybe. Their chavs just wear (Other Football) - duke of york, Jun 15, 12:50:20
  - Are they really ashamed?.. (Other Football) - Fierce Panda, Jun 15, 12:31:16
  - Yet a silly joke about a player called scotland and look at the reaction (n/m) (Other Football) - pants, Jun 15, 12:30:18
    - Didn't see any of the Scotland stuff (Other Football) - duke of york, Jun 15, 12:33:39
      - Most Scots want England to do well... (Other Football) - Small, Jun 15, 12:41:51
        
        I'd like to see that scientifically tested (n/m) (Other Football) - mr carra, Jun 15, 12:48:57
        
        Prove it (n/m) (Other Football) - duke of york, Jun 15, 12:45:16
        
        prove yours as well (n/m) (Other Football) - pants, Jun 15, 13:11:42
        
        What am I proving? What have I stated as FACT? (n/m) (Other Football) - duke of york, Jun 15, 13:26:49
- I'm gonna stick my neck and state, on the record.... (Other Football) - Fierce Panda, Jun 15, 12:27:57

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