I agree to a point and as an ex-cop..........

I can tell you that the reason for citing an alternative, but lesser charge (as was the case with each of the supplying alcohol to minors counts) is that you are unsure of aconviction on the substantive charge but 100% certain of a conviction on the lesser charge.

The conspiracy and abuse charges are clear cut, he's either guilty or not, but i am amazed that he wasn't found guilty on any of the alternative supplying alcohol charges.

What we shouldn't forget in all of this is that under the American system, the defence has more influence in jury selectiom than the prosecution does and therefore defences spend huge amounts of time and money to get the best possible jury for the defendent.

Posted By: Kirrie on June 14th 2005 at 11:09:27

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Van Persie arrested for rape in Holland (Other Football) - Kirrie, Jun 14, 10:51:19
- Finnan also arrested.... (Other Football) - Delveg, Jun 14, 11:09:55
- Yet another allegation and another opportunist... (Other Football) - Bertie Biggins, Jun 14, 11:07:09
  - How the hell can you say that without knowing any of the facts?! (n/m) (Other Football) - Kirrie, Jun 14, 11:10:37
    - Likewise, how can you say 'get away with it'.... (Other Football) - Bertie Biggins, Jun 14, 11:16:34
      - I didn't - read my post again! (n/m) (Other Football) - Kirrie, Jun 14, 11:19:06
  - but if theres something they can't have (Other Football) - Gus Poyet 26, Jun 14, 11:10:09
    - Correct - I arrested Duncan Ferguson twice......... (Other Football) - Kirrie, Jun 14, 11:18:28
      - You love bragging about that, don't you Kirrie! (Other Football) - d0mj4y, Jun 14, 12:06:43
      - No doubt that Ferguson is just a thug. (Other Football) - Bertie Biggins, Jun 14, 11:21:44
    - There's always that possiblilty but as we've learnt (Other Football) - Bertie Biggins, Jun 14, 11:18:26
- probably got enough money to get away with it too (n/m) (Other Football) - Gus Poyet 26, Jun 14, 10:54:28
  - Gus, i'm not a Michael Jackson fan..... (Other Football) - BeverlyHills0201, Jun 14, 10:56:57
    - With the 10 charges levy'd (Other Football) - Gus Poyet 26, Jun 14, 10:59:58
      - I agree to a point and as an ex-cop.......... (Other Football) - Kirrie, Jun 14, 11:09:27
      - Because the prosecutor had been pursing him for 15 years? (Other Football) - BeverlyHills0201, Jun 14, 11:04:21
      - They found kiddie porn too didn't they but the police never charged him for it (n/m) (Other Football) - Yellow Jersey, Jun 14, 11:02:54
        
        If that had been found that would have been brought. (Other Football) - BeverlyHills0201, Jun 14, 11:06:00
        
        I heard that about from someone but didn't know if it was true or not (n/m) (Other Football) - Gus Poyet 26, Jun 14, 11:03:58
        
        At the end of the day, a 46 year old man sleeping in a bed with other people's children (Other Football) - Yellow Jersey, Jun 14, 11:06:41
        
        and what are the childrens parents then?.... (Other Football) - Bertie Biggins, Jun 14, 11:09:00
        
        It's top drawer weird, no doubt. (Other Football) - BeverlyHills0201, Jun 14, 11:08:17
        
        haha (n/m) (Other Football) - Gus Poyet 26, Jun 14, 11:13:02
        
        And it doesn't say anything about the acceptability of the behaviour. (Other Football) - BeverlyHills0201, Jun 14, 11:10:13
        
        Agree (n/m) (Other Football) - Bertie Biggins, Jun 14, 11:09:21

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