The math(s) of a possible NCFC promotion
8 games left = 24 points to play for.
Currently have 57 points
last 7 years the average points needed to make the top 6 is 72.42 points.
Lets look at the distribution.
69 or less points 0%
70 or less points 14.2%
71 or less points 57.1%
72 or less points 57.1%
73 or less points 57.1%
74 or less points 85.7%
75 or less points 85.7%
76 or less points 100%
2 PPG will get us to exactly 73 points
Our season average PPG is 1.5
Our PPG average under Wagner is 1.75
I ran a Monte Carlo simulation based on the remaining games (and the relative strength of the opponents)
and came up with 68.79 points
Considering our current odds of promotion are around 7/1 (probably closer to 9/1 real odds with the huge vig added)
Lets be generous and give us a 30% chance of promotion if we make the playoffs.(these would be close to the odds because if we do make the playoffs we would need a huge run of good form to get there)
The true odds the market is giving for Norwich to make the playoffs is around 36%
I have it slightly less at 28% (small samples and data sets so its not really that different)
Anyway here is the TLDR...
Will we make the playoffs.... probably not.
Will we get promoted?
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Posted By: usacanary on March 28th 2023 at 17:10:05
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- The math(s) of a possible NCFC promotion (NCFC) - usacanary, Mar 28, 17:10:05
- If we carry on at 1.75 ppg (NCFC) - paulg, Mar 28, 22:22:21
- Interesting post, cheers ππ» (n/m) (NCFC) - Old Git, Mar 28, 20:07:57
- Oooh. Tell me how you ran your Monte Carlo analysis (n/m) (NCFC) - Timmy_Goat, Mar 28, 19:56:18
- So after all that guff, the bookies have it right which is no surprise to anybody. (n/m) (NCFC) - Legacy Fan, Mar 28, 19:13:37
- The markets have over rated us all season (NCFC) - SCC 28, Mar 28, 19:27:45
- Fewer (n/m) (NCFC) - Legacy Fan, Mar 28, 19:11:01
- Anything north of 7/1 feels quite attractive... (n/m) (NCFC) - MonkeyPuzzle, Mar 28, 18:06:46
- Mikey says its 1% which means he could offer you 90/1 and still have an edge. (n/m) (NCFC) - usacanary, Mar 28, 18:12:18
- More of an edge laying on betfair tbf (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Mar 28, 18:15:08
- You can become the bookie on betfair and offer what you like. (NCFC) - usacanary, Mar 28, 18:21:37
- You appear to think Norwich knowledge (NCFC) - SCC 28, Mar 28, 18:28:18
- Athletes/"experts" are known as the worlds worst sports bettors. (NCFC) - usacanary, Mar 28, 18:40:20
- You totally misread what I wrote π (NCFC) - SCC 28, Mar 28, 18:52:34
- Athletes/"experts" are known as the worlds worst sports bettors. (NCFC) - usacanary, Mar 28, 18:40:20
- You appear to think Norwich knowledge (NCFC) - SCC 28, Mar 28, 18:28:18
- You can become the bookie on betfair and offer what you like. (NCFC) - usacanary, Mar 28, 18:21:37
- More of an edge laying on betfair tbf (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Mar 28, 18:15:08
- Mikey says its 1% which means he could offer you 90/1 and still have an edge. (n/m) (NCFC) - usacanary, Mar 28, 18:12:18
- Something inside hasn't written it or yet. (NCFC) - ParrotPuncher, Mar 28, 17:55:13
- 1% chance of promotion by my calculations (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Mar 28, 17:29:17
- Mikey, the market is 7 to 1.......... (NCFC) - usacanary, Mar 28, 17:46:10
- Norwich is a very niche market sadly (NCFC) - SCC 28, Mar 28, 18:04:21
- Thats the amazing thing about sportbetting....... (NCFC) - usacanary, Mar 28, 18:18:57
- Which nobody has said they could (NCFC) - SCC 28, Mar 28, 18:23:54
- Can we add this to the "Mikey List" of things you are unqualified to talk about. (NCFC) - usacanary, Mar 28, 18:44:30
- Are you ok? (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Mar 28, 18:53:04
- Annie (n/m) (NCFC) - Chris Peacock, Mar 28, 20:03:45
- Are you ok? (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Mar 28, 18:53:04
- But you said the odds were 1% by your "calculations" (NCFC) - usacanary, Mar 28, 18:38:29
- Yes I have a huge edge on this market (NCFC) - SCC 28, Mar 28, 18:53:33
- Can we add this to the "Mikey List" of things you are unqualified to talk about. (NCFC) - usacanary, Mar 28, 18:44:30
- Which nobody has said they could (NCFC) - SCC 28, Mar 28, 18:23:54
- Thats the amazing thing about sportbetting....... (NCFC) - usacanary, Mar 28, 18:18:57
- Norwich is a very niche market sadly (NCFC) - SCC 28, Mar 28, 18:04:21
- Mikey, the market is 7 to 1.......... (NCFC) - usacanary, Mar 28, 17:46:10
- So agonisingly close (NCFC) - CWC, Mar 28, 17:18:59
- Yeh, its super close and TBF.... (NCFC) - usacanary, Mar 28, 17:24:31
- Canβt play bang average teams nearly every week (NCFC) - SCC 28, Mar 28, 17:28:16
- We can, we're in the Championship (NCFC) - Adster, Mar 28, 17:42:55
- Canβt play bang average teams nearly every week (NCFC) - SCC 28, Mar 28, 17:28:16
- Yeh, its super close and TBF.... (NCFC) - usacanary, Mar 28, 17:24:31
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