The company employing him is

and that company may - or may not - have signed up to the impartiality guidelines.

And there is sufficient distance to be able to challenge whether it is a reasonable policy to expect a third party contractor to have to comply with on their personal time.

Indeed I think it is actually in the BBC's financial interests for it to *not* apply, as there are significant IR35 consequences were he to be seen as an employee of the BBC, such that they would want as much clear water as possible between the expectations on a BBC employee and the expectations on Lineker.

But, ironies of all ironies, it is in the BBC's political interests to s**t down his criticism of the Government, citing the need for "impartiality".

Posted By: CWC on March 9th 2023 at 12:19:57

Message Thread

BBC are going to sack Gary (General Chat) - Charles21, Mar 9, 10:14:24
- Ban the person doing freedom of speech. Cancel him. Yeh (General Chat) - ChampsChamps2023, Mar 9, 18:13:16
- Troy Deeney to get the gig. Match Of Troy Deeney (n/m) (General Chat) - MonkeyPuzzle, Mar 9, 16:48:26
  - 101 (n/m) (General Chat) - Chris Peacock, Mar 9, 17:34:51
- Let's get the ton up on this one gang (General Chat) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Mar 9, 15:55:00
  - Sit on the fucking fence why don't you. (n/m) (General Chat) - Captain Bligh, Mar 9, 16:24:11
    - Good, USACs joined in. Hopefully the parrot fella will be along too shortly (General Chat) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Mar 9, 17:09:47
      - It's great you keep banging on about me. (General Chat) - ParrotPuncher, Mar 9, 17:48:40
      - im just laughing at the frothing..... (General Chat) - usacanary, Mar 9, 17:18:02
        
        101 not out (General Chat) - jamesward, Mar 9, 17:44:41
        
        Epic wrothing everyone. Kudos to Charles21 good to have a tonner on your Wroth palmares (n/m) (General Chat) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Mar 9, 17:53:30
        
        Yep he caught some gargantuan cunts (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Mar 9, 18:11:19
        
        ^^^^^^^^ Frothing (n/m) (General Chat) - usacanary, Mar 9, 17:49:57
- Very strange there were no calls to sack him when he said "bin Corbyn" (General Chat) - Cable Gap Pioneer, Mar 9, 14:44:18
  - Corbyn is to blame for everything Shit in the past 13 years of Tory rule (n/m) (General Chat) - ChampsChamps2023, Mar 9, 18:14:33
- It’s all about the culture wars (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Mar 9, 13:14:46
  - Robot wars (n/m) (General Chat) - ChampsChamps2023, Mar 9, 18:14:49
  - Wrong war mate.... (General Chat) - usacanary, Mar 9, 17:28:02
  - vmt (General Chat) - Chris Peacock, Mar 9, 14:42:05
  - I prefer the coo ta wars (n/m) (General Chat) - Augustus Pablo, Mar 9, 13:19:03
    - Coal tar wars. Lather up and let's rumble. (n/m) (General Chat) - Captain Bligh, Mar 9, 15:46:43
- For most of my life the BBC has been criticised by both the left and the right for (General Chat) - Augustus Pablo, Mar 9, 10:24:25
  - I went to a corporate event which had Steph McGovern as guest speaker... (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Mar 9, 11:07:23
    - Sounds about right (n/m) (General Chat) - jamesward, Mar 9, 11:15:45
  - Being (n/m) (General Chat) - Augustus Pablo, Mar 9, 10:25:49
    - Very true. It isn't perfect and as a government funded broadcaster I believe it has to rep (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Mar 9, 10:30:42
      - "government funded broadcaster" Really?? (n/m) (General Chat) - Henclrikus, Mar 9, 13:23:56
      - he's not a BBC employee (n/m) (General Chat) - CWC, Mar 9, 10:57:01
        
        He is under contract at the BBC though? (n/m) (General Chat) - Brom, Mar 9, 11:45:18
        
        The company employing him is (General Chat) - CWC, Mar 9, 12:19:57
      - But why? (General Chat) - LincolnshireCanary, Mar 9, 10:49:07
        
        What makes Lineker any different to any other bbc employee? (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Mar 9, 10:53:44
        
        What makes a BBC employee different to anyone else? (n/m) (General Chat) - LincolnshireCanary, Mar 9, 11:16:00
        
        They're paid from our taxes.But whether they should (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Mar 9, 11:24:42
        
        Yes ok, (General Chat) - LincolnshireCanary, Mar 9, 11:36:04
        
        You tell me,I've not given it one iota of thought,and I doubt that I will. (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Mar 9, 11:50:51
        
        Should it warrant anything more than a slap on the wrist and everyone moving on? (n/m) (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Mar 9, 11:08:10
        
        I Don't know tbh,it gets so much publicity, gets jumped 9n by right (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Mar 9, 11:11:24
        
        To me, not letting people like that "win", if getting him sacked is what they want... (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Mar 9, 11:12:45
        
        Yes you're right,he'd effectively be cancelled. (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Mar 9, 11:20:04
      - it tends to veer left because of the people who tend to work for it (General Chat) - paulg, Mar 9, 10:35:45
        
        No, all the top management positions are filled by ex-tories or their chums (General Chat) - Cable Gap Pioneer, Mar 9, 14:26:06
        
        Should be totally impartial but appreciate that's hard to achieve. (n/m) (General Chat) - The Gaffer, Mar 9, 10:39:10
        
        not sure it's possible (General Chat) - paulg, Mar 9, 10:51:33
        
        But look at all the cunts who care… (General Chat) - SCC 28, Mar 9, 13:08:41
        
        Indeed - but then why are his comments relevant to his job as a football pundit? (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Mar 9, 11:03:12
        
        because evryone knows that if u work for the beeb (General Chat) - paulg, Mar 9, 11:07:49
        
        But that hasn't always been the case has it? (General Chat) - CWC, Mar 9, 12:29:11
        
        These people aren’t arguing in good faith at all (General Chat) - SCC 28, Mar 9, 13:10:29
        
        Pru Leith spoke up for Brexit and TMPM. Didn't get #BakedOff (General Chat) - CWC, Mar 9, 13:21:14
        
        Yep pretty amazed people can’t see what’s going on (General Chat) - SCC 28, Mar 9, 13:30:04
        
        Given how often "these people" batter on about cancel culture and how terrible it is (General Chat) - Under soil heating, Mar 9, 13:41:38
        
        I'm not saying he shouldn't be reminded of his responsibilities (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Mar 9, 11:10:04
        
        sacking him would be disproportionate (General Chat) - paulg, Mar 9, 11:14:46
        
        Don't impartiality rules only apply to news people? (General Chat) - jamesward, Mar 9, 11:18:55
        
        they may well do, I don't know - in which case his comments are even more irrelevant (General Chat) - paulg, Mar 9, 11:30:30
        
        Not to you 🤣 (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Mar 9, 13:11:09
        
        Indeed, yet it's got everyone frothing at the mouth (General Chat) - jamesward, Mar 9, 11:57:24
        
        Cunts are frothing (General Chat) - SCC 28, Mar 9, 13:11:43
        
        ^^^^^Frothing... (n/m) (General Chat) - usacanary, Mar 9, 17:03:24
        
        he got everyone frothing, on any every side (General Chat) - paulg, Mar 9, 12:31:44
        
        Your analysis is far too reasoned and rational for WOTB. (General Chat) - usacanary, Mar 9, 17:02:25
        
        Although, some of the rhetoric of this government is actually similar (General Chat) - jamesward, Mar 9, 12:40:46
        
        i think comparisons with nazi germany (General Chat) - paulg, Mar 9, 12:52:47
        
        Well, he was referring to one particular element of Germany in the 1930s (General Chat) - jamesward, Mar 9, 13:05:58
        
        You cannot reason with these people (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Mar 9, 13:12:12
        
        whereas you of course are well known for reasoned debate (n/m) (General Chat) - paulg, Mar 9, 13:28:35
        
        Trying not to play chess with pigeons (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Mar 9, 14:33:39
        
        now I have a wonderful image (General Chat) - paulg, Mar 9, 15:02:54
        
        That’s why I stopped tbf (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Mar 9, 15:26:50
        
        You stopped yelling the C word at pigeons..... (General Chat) - usacanary, Mar 9, 16:57:21
        
        Fucking called it🔥 (General Chat) - SCC 28, Mar 9, 13:13:13
        
        I believe you underestimate the vast number of plonkers. (n/m) (General Chat) - The Gaffer, Mar 9, 11:26:57
- They should replace Gary with a Nigel Farage/Rees-Mogg dream team (General Chat) - Under soil heating, Mar 9, 10:16:55
  - they should replace him with someone who won't cost 1.3m/annum (General Chat) - paulg, Mar 9, 10:24:18
    - Just replace him with the Liz Truss Lettuce, everyone fast forwards the so called (General Chat) - BSE Canary, Mar 9, 11:13:07
    - 100% this. He does have any unique talent that warrants such an obscene amount. (n/m) (General Chat) - The Gaffer, Mar 9, 10:36:44
      - He's England 4th highest goalscorer & has (General Chat) - LincolnshireCanary, Mar 9, 10:51:52
        
        Jumbo has scored more and better goals and has far more presenting experience (n/m) (General Chat) - Augustus Pablo, Mar 9, 11:35:53
        
        And he's priceless to this forum (General Chat) - LincolnshireCanary, Mar 9, 11:36:44
        
        1.3 million for innuendo and knob gags? (General Chat) - Captain Bligh, Mar 9, 12:01:03
        
        Who doesn’t like to be knob gagged? (n/m) (General Chat) - Augustus Pablo, Mar 9, 13:13:43
        
        Ving Rhames (General Chat) - usacanary, Mar 9, 17:32:37
        
        Please read my post. Yes he has unique talents but not enough to warrant 1.3 million (n/m) (General Chat) - The Gaffer, Mar 9, 11:21:03
        
        You should complain to the BBC (n/m) (General Chat) - jamesward, Mar 9, 11:21:27
        
        Do you think it would make a difference? (n/m) (General Chat) - The Gaffer, Mar 9, 11:25:01
        
        Maybe not, but it could get read out by Anne Robinson on Points of View (General Chat) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Mar 9, 11:49:51
        
        He's presenting a show that football fans would still watch if it was presented by a (General Chat) - Jim, Mar 9, 10:54:57
        
        I agree with that (General Chat) - LincolnshireCanary, Mar 9, 11:20:00
        
        Agreed. I've got nothing against him personally and am also not bothered by his comments (n/m) (General Chat) - Jim, Mar 9, 11:23:57
        
        you think MOTD would get the same ratings if Chapman was hosting it? (General Chat) - CWC, Mar 9, 11:00:23
        
        Yes I do. Which football fans give a sh*t? (General Chat) - Jim, Mar 9, 11:16:52
        
        Well, I don't watch the football league show now they've ditched (General Chat) - jamesward, Mar 9, 11:19:47
        
        I think you are probably in a minority and its as much linked to the fact that (General Chat) - Jim, Mar 9, 11:23:01
        
        I don't think it would make a difference who was presenting (General Chat) - Captain Bligh, Mar 9, 11:14:14
        
        it's about 9 x as much as the PM. it's ludicrous (n/m) (General Chat) - paulg, Mar 9, 11:11:21
        
        And a fraction of the cost of the players he's paid to talk about (General Chat) - LincolnshireCanary, Mar 9, 13:54:54
        
        yes but the PM is massively underpaid (General Chat) - CWC, Mar 9, 11:31:55
        
        You could say the same about many other BBC employees (n/m) (General Chat) - jamesward, Mar 9, 11:20:10
        
        yes - though i think presenting MoTD is particularly straightforward (General Chat) - paulg, Mar 9, 11:32:42
        
        I wonder how much someone like David Jones on Sky gets paid? (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Mar 9, 11:15:34
        
        Sky's a private company - up to to them what they do (n/m) (General Chat) - paulg, Mar 9, 11:16:45
        
        You’re having a right shocker here well done (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Mar 9, 13:04:40
        
        That's not my point (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Mar 9, 11:35:12
        
        maybe - though it's a limited job market (General Chat) - paulg, Mar 9, 11:47:45
        
        Possibly, although I don't know (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Mar 9, 12:08:54
        
        Well Mark Chapman gets paid £250K according to the info they release (General Chat) - Jim, Mar 9, 12:13:20
        
        Yes, even if it were doubled (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Mar 9, 12:20:53
      - "doesn't" (n/m) (General Chat) - The Gaffer, Mar 9, 10:37:12
  - Upsetting the very best people? (n/m) (General Chat) - Captain Bligh, Mar 9, 10:21:09

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