He’s just telling people the truth
But it is being presented in an overly dramatic way.
The old paradigm was demand does whatever it likes in energy markets, and our system of cheap fossil fuel fired stations would flex to deliver whatever the customer wants. And in recent years energy has been so cheap that has been possible while keeping bills so low nobody ever thought about them (which is why so many people couldn’t be arsed to switch).
We won’t be able to do that so perfectly anymore, as in the future we won’t be able to use fossil fuels. We will still have dispatchable plant, and there will be storage, but not enough for us all to do whatever we like, and all of that will be much more expensive. So we consumers will need to be more responsive and flexible to what the system has and needs. When the wind blows, cars will need to charge. When it’s still, they will need to stop, or even send charge back. Or we might need fridges that switch off for an hour here and there. To a larger degree, demand will need to do more to follow supply.
So it won’t be like rural India here, with constant black outs and everyone having the candles out. But it will be different. I don’t think it’s anything to panic about though.
Posted By: Under soil heating on February 3rd 2023 at 07:49:12
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- F**king hell! How has it come to this? Unbelievable.... (General Chat) - jimbo, Feb 3, 05:28:19
- It'll work the other way round (General Chat) - Kangol Canary, Feb 3, 13:29:19
- All part of controlling the population (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Feb 3, 08:13:43
- He’s just telling people the truth (General Chat) - Under soil heating, Feb 3, 07:49:12
- Can you really see car's being all electric? (General Chat) - jimbo, Feb 3, 08:50:38
- 'Cos mine's broken down (n/m) (General Chat) - Ken Breadstick, Feb 3, 10:04:28
- It’s not there yet, but also as battery technology improves then there’ll be less need for (General Chat) - Augustus Pablo, Feb 3, 09:08:26
- EV is actually a major part of the solution (General Chat) - Dracula, Feb 3, 09:49:02
- The solution is not evs, it's cheap/free and extensive public transport (General Chat) - Cable Gap Pioneer, Feb 3, 15:17:47
- EV will replace public transport in some areas (General Chat) - Dracula, Feb 3, 18:27:13
- The solution is not evs, it's cheap/free and extensive public transport (General Chat) - Cable Gap Pioneer, Feb 3, 15:17:47
- They're still way too expensive at the moment (General Chat) - jamesward, Feb 3, 09:23:41
- It's by no means simple (General Chat) - Cardiff Canary, Feb 3, 09:15:00
- What I mean is it’s got to be easier to put in the supply network Shirley? (n/m) (General Chat) - Augustus Pablo, Feb 3, 09:10:10
- An awful lot of new cables to run. Both overhead on pylons and.. (General Chat) - jimbo, Feb 3, 09:15:45
- depends on how localised generation is, dunnit? (General Chat) - Cardiff Canary, Feb 3, 09:21:21
- I’ve got a mate who can give a quote, I know he’s booked though until April. (n/m) (General Chat) - Augustus Pablo, Feb 3, 09:19:52
- An awful lot of new cables to run. Both overhead on pylons and.. (General Chat) - jimbo, Feb 3, 09:15:45
- EV is actually a major part of the solution (General Chat) - Dracula, Feb 3, 09:49:02
- Exactly. It just makes sense. (General Chat) - Bertie Russell, Feb 3, 08:33:47
- Telling jimbo not to panic lol (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Feb 3, 08:16:54
- I'm not panicking! I live in Sweden 🇸🇪 🙂. I made what is increasingly now.... (General Chat) - jimbo, Feb 3, 08:43:28
- Good call. I do fancy retiring abroad, possibly France and I know it is (General Chat) - Augustus Pablo, Feb 3, 09:04:21
- Isn't France collapsing? (General Chat) - paulg, Feb 3, 11:37:53
- No they're not. (General Chat) - Captain Bligh, Feb 3, 11:50:11
- According to the IMF yes (General Chat) - SCC 28, Feb 3, 12:07:40
- No they're not. (General Chat) - Captain Bligh, Feb 3, 11:50:11
- Isn't France collapsing? (General Chat) - paulg, Feb 3, 11:37:53
- Panic Quack! (n/m) (General Chat) - Bristol Graham, Feb 3, 08:48:24
- Thank you for fucking off (General Chat) - SCC 28, Feb 3, 08:47:46
- Charming Ultra (n/m) (General Chat) - Augustus Pablo, Feb 3, 09:20:49
- You have complete faith in the government to act in your best interests.... (General Chat) - jimbo, Feb 3, 08:56:13
- Haha absolutely not (General Chat) - SCC 28, Feb 3, 08:59:19
- Spreading shite? Because I raise questions about the MRNA vaccines and the ... (General Chat) - jimbo, Feb 3, 09:21:13
- sigh - I know that SCC can be angrifying (General Chat) - Cardiff Canary, Feb 3, 09:27:10
- Liverpool had 2 shockers go for them last week tbf (General Chat) - SCC 28, Feb 3, 09:29:16
- which was (generally) my point (General Chat) - Cardiff Canary, Feb 3, 09:33:05
- Those 2 I wouldn’t class as issues with the tech though (General Chat) - SCC 28, Feb 3, 09:54:22
- which was (generally) my point (General Chat) - Cardiff Canary, Feb 3, 09:33:05
- Liverpool had 2 shockers go for them last week tbf (General Chat) - SCC 28, Feb 3, 09:29:16
- Haha there’s that delusion again! (General Chat) - SCC 28, Feb 3, 09:24:38
- sigh - I know that SCC can be angrifying (General Chat) - Cardiff Canary, Feb 3, 09:27:10
- Spreading shite? Because I raise questions about the MRNA vaccines and the ... (General Chat) - jimbo, Feb 3, 09:21:13
- Haha absolutely not (General Chat) - SCC 28, Feb 3, 08:59:19
- Good call. I do fancy retiring abroad, possibly France and I know it is (General Chat) - Augustus Pablo, Feb 3, 09:04:21
- I'm not panicking! I live in Sweden 🇸🇪 🙂. I made what is increasingly now.... (General Chat) - jimbo, Feb 3, 08:40:51
- Actually, these changes will have less of on impact on you then (General Chat) - Under soil heating, Feb 3, 09:04:49
- I'm not panicking! I live in Sweden 🇸🇪 🙂. I made what is increasingly now.... (General Chat) - jimbo, Feb 3, 08:43:28
- And ITV regions will have to stagger transmission times of Corrie (n/m) (General Chat) - Augustus Pablo, Feb 3, 08:11:08
- Can you really see car's being all electric? (General Chat) - jimbo, Feb 3, 08:50:38
- Meh (General Chat) - ghostof barry butler, Feb 3, 06:49:16
- Nuclear wld have done the job too (General Chat) - paulg, Feb 3, 08:11:15
- wind, solar, hydroelectric & nuclear (General Chat) - Cardiff Canary, Feb 3, 09:11:11
- yes that can be part of the solution (n/m) (General Chat) - ghostof barry butler, Feb 3, 08:37:57
- It can. But nuclear station output is not flexible. (General Chat) - Under soil heating, Feb 3, 09:08:38
- The Severn barrage is looking pretty affordable these days (General Chat) - Cardiff Canary, Feb 3, 09:13:27
- 👍 (General Chat) - Under soil heating, Feb 3, 09:20:56
- The FotE chap said, regarding birds, (General Chat) - Cardiff Canary, Feb 3, 09:30:18
- silver lining then (General Chat) - CWC, Feb 3, 10:06:23
- Sustainable Crispy Duck - the future's bright, the future's orange (General Chat) - Cardiff Canary, Feb 3, 10:16:16
- silver lining then (General Chat) - CWC, Feb 3, 10:06:23
- The FotE chap said, regarding birds, (General Chat) - Cardiff Canary, Feb 3, 09:30:18
- 👍 (General Chat) - Under soil heating, Feb 3, 09:20:56
- The Severn barrage is looking pretty affordable these days (General Chat) - Cardiff Canary, Feb 3, 09:13:27
- It can. But nuclear station output is not flexible. (General Chat) - Under soil heating, Feb 3, 09:08:38
- Nuclear wld have done the job too (General Chat) - paulg, Feb 3, 08:11:15
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