They really don't

peer review in science is mainly driven by people who are competing. They're actively looking to test (to destruction) their peers' work.

The biggest problem that scientists face is usually that they concentrate on the anomalous results and exceptions. Which means that the papers which are published are about the fringes (of scientific interest), but which actually don't reflect the broader picture and context in which they're working.

"99.9% of the time this happens - so we're looking at exploring that 0.1%"

this, in turn, is often the root cause of newspaper articles titled "scientists say!!!!" as those papers are not designed to be transposed to the newsfeed, and the journalists, even if they are skilled and experienced, rarely have the time to pick out the pertinent info.

(I went on a communication workshop run by the science editor of The Times - eye opening the pressures reporters are under just to turn things around)

Posted By: Cardiff Canary on January 18th 2023 at 11:24:17

Message Thread

Damn those anti vaxxers! 😡 (General Chat) - jimbo, Jan 18, 09:45:08
- Brom knows (n/m) (General Chat) - Graham Nine, Jan 18, 19:51:59
- Mental cunt shares a mental cunt shocker (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jan 18, 10:01:48
  - 👏👏 First ton of 2023. (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Jan 18, 14:18:17
    - To think many posters have been accused of spamming the board (General Chat) - ParrotPuncher, Jan 18, 14:32:25
  - Can't be arsed reading all this, (General Chat) - ParrotPuncher, Jan 18, 14:04:03
    - Lol mental Q cunt (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jan 18, 14:07:54
      - Yep I'm mental.... expert twitter troll (n/m) (General Chat) - ParrotPuncher, Jan 18, 14:12:55
    - Have to admit, (General Chat) - CB41, Jan 18, 14:07:19
  - Language Timothy! (n/m) (General Chat) - Boyer, Jan 18, 12:20:14
  - The vaccine was a necessity ,but there's also been too many adverse (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Jan 18, 10:19:46
    - The population was the clinical trial. They were never going to admit to it (General Chat) - Lentil Weaver, Jan 18, 12:32:06
      - no they weren't (General Chat) - Cardiff Canary, Jan 18, 12:49:13
        
        Surprised how keen he is to embrace that nonsense (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jan 18, 12:53:57
      - You continue to share this bollocks (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jan 18, 12:46:28
    - Agreed (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Jan 18, 10:51:42
      - Around 60 have died in England and Wales (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jan 18, 10:59:32
        
        A bit hysterical no? (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Jan 18, 11:08:20
        
        Andrew Bridgen (General Chat) - Cardiff Canary, Jan 18, 11:17:45
        
        Of course he isn’t - a flippant comment CC (n/m) (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Jan 18, 11:23:53
        
        We’ve known it for the last 2 years (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jan 18, 11:17:08
        
        Because adverse reactions to any medication are entirely normal (General Chat) - norwaay, Jan 18, 11:14:47
        
        Surely this is more reason to debate these things (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Jan 18, 11:20:00
        
        Lol you were actually defending him! 🙈🙈🙈 (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jan 18, 11:24:54
        
        And another (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jan 18, 11:26:06
        
        I hadn’t seen these interviews - just his suspension (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Jan 18, 11:30:39
        
        I’m not a fanboy no (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jan 18, 12:09:06
        
        You said that his suspension seemed sinister (General Chat) - norwaay, Jan 18, 11:50:45
        
        I think he should be allowed to express his views (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Jan 18, 11:55:53
        
        He did express them, repeatedly. (General Chat) - APB, Jan 18, 13:24:03
        
        He is allowed to express his views. He is expressing his views. (n/m) (General Chat) - norwaay, Jan 18, 12:25:52
        
        The reviews he expresses should be those of his constituents. (n/m) (General Chat) - The Gaffer, Jan 18, 12:23:46
        
        Who is stopping him exactly? (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jan 18, 12:10:18
        
        Wasn't he suspended for calling it the same as the Holocaust? (General Chat) - CB41, Jan 18, 11:23:57
        
        Nothing is being shut down and there is transparency! (n/m) (General Chat) - norwaay, Jan 18, 11:23:26
        
        I thought he meant Bridgen was sinister (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jan 18, 11:18:14
      - Debate is not shut down at all. (General Chat) - norwaay, Jan 18, 10:53:53
    - It's complex to work out the interdependencies (General Chat) - Cardiff Canary, Jan 18, 10:35:40
      - He might have had a better reception if he hadn't linked it to a vid (General Chat) - CB41, Jan 18, 11:14:03
        
        I heard he was a right hard bastard. (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Jan 18, 11:15:17
      - Neither me or my partner have had it. Mind you, (General Chat) - CB41, Jan 18, 11:12:36
      - I was wondering about the OP (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jan 18, 10:51:31
        
        Because the more clicks it gets the more views it gets and thereby appears more (General Chat) - Legacy Fan, Jan 18, 10:55:12
      - You didn't say cunt or grifter. (General Chat) - Captain Bligh, Jan 18, 10:42:36
        
        RRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAGGGGGGEEEEEE! (General Chat) - Cardiff Canary, Jan 18, 11:01:32
        
        I'm not answering because I don't know yet and I'm incredibly hungry already (General Chat) - norwaay, Jan 18, 11:02:52
        
        Soup and ham sandwich here apparently (General Chat) - Cardiff Canary, Jan 18, 11:04:57
        
        I might have to attack the snack machine (General Chat) - norwaay, Jan 18, 11:06:11
        
        WFH? (General Chat) - Cardiff Canary, Jan 18, 11:12:42
        
        I come in two or three times a week (General Chat) - norwaay, Jan 18, 11:15:53
        
        ^TWAT (General Chat) - Jumbo1, Jan 18, 11:21:05
        
        ^^^ Joins the debate when the big human rights issues are brought up (n/m) (General Chat) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Jan 18, 11:39:51
        
        chocolate is a human right (n/m) (General Chat) - Jumbo1, Jan 18, 11:55:52
        
        Agree comrade. Boost bars NOT Boosters! (n/m) (General Chat) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Jan 18, 12:01:47
        
        We've now got snack bars run by the friendly Polish ladies (General Chat) - Cardiff Canary, Jan 18, 11:26:23
        
        Walkers MAX sizzling flame grilled steak and a snickers (General Chat) - norwaay, Jan 18, 11:22:20
        
        Is this any more helpful or constructive - or just another snide? (General Chat) - norwaay, Jan 18, 10:43:57
        
        Call out scc for c wording heh? Or shut up. (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Jan 18, 10:57:35
        
        No need to waste a stamp, it was clearly a snide. (General Chat) - Captain Bligh, Jan 18, 10:53:40
        
        Yeah loads of respect (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jan 18, 10:58:27
        
        No-one on this board (General Chat) - norwaay, Jan 18, 11:01:54
        
        And the rude words are only after engagement (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jan 18, 11:06:16
        
        👍 (n/m) (General Chat) - norwaay, Jan 18, 11:07:11
        
        It was a snide that made it entirely clear where your priorities lie. (General Chat) - norwaay, Jan 18, 10:54:59
      - It is balance of risk,absolutely. (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Jan 18, 10:37:43
      - Linky (General Chat) - Cardiff Canary, Jan 18, 10:35:50
        
        Sadly their minds are made up (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jan 18, 10:53:39
        
        Thanks CC - this is also good I think. (General Chat) - norwaay, Jan 18, 10:36:58
    - No there haven't and yes it is. Stop talking bollocks. (n/m) (General Chat) - norwaay, Jan 18, 10:29:50
      - Do your research Norway (General Chat) - Legacy Fan, Jan 18, 10:51:19
        
        Hehehe.🙂👏 (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Jan 18, 10:56:02
        
        😄 (n/m) (General Chat) - norwaay, Jan 18, 10:51:43
      - Bullshit. (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Jan 18, 10:35:39
        
        But... (General Chat) - Cardiff Canary, Jan 18, 10:36:44
        
        Well I've only just had breakfast, so probably nowt (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Jan 18, 11:21:42
        
        Mmmmm brunch (n/m) (General Chat) - Cardiff Canary, Jan 18, 11:31:07
    - Nope (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jan 18, 10:27:59
      - Problem is that you will never convince some people with logic and facts. Their underlying (General Chat) - The Gaffer, Jan 18, 12:18:47
      - I've taken 3 you gobby cunt ,and btw gobshite John Campbell was (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Jan 18, 10:31:19
        
        So were Malhotra and Kirsch you mad cunt (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jan 18, 10:35:04
        
        Who are they? I've posted before on here how the peer review process has been (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Jan 18, 10:43:46
        
        Yeah Malhotra’s own peer review lol (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jan 18, 10:48:20
        
        You're incredibly myopic mate.I'll even admit (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Jan 18, 10:54:55
        
        Yeah must be why I pay these cunts attention (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jan 18, 11:04:02
        
        Ripped apart by experts who advocated for the vaccines? That's like the met police (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Jan 18, 11:09:46
        
        They really don't (General Chat) - Cardiff Canary, Jan 18, 11:24:17
        
        Stop it with your informed info (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Jan 18, 12:15:13
        
        Just listen to yourself lol (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jan 18, 11:21:16
        
        Another. (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Jan 18, 12:03:19
        
        There are certainly some issues with it (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jan 18, 12:23:13
        
        I never said it was , i've given you valid reason to doubt the integrity (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Jan 18, 12:26:23
        
        You haven’t given valid reasons (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jan 18, 12:58:39
        
        So, about 1% are retracted (General Chat) - Cardiff Canary, Jan 18, 12:13:20
        
        Oh I agree,I'm just highlighting why I have doubts,and I'll freely admit (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Jan 18, 12:23:45
        
        heh - don't we all! (n/m) (General Chat) - Cardiff Canary, Jan 18, 12:45:36
        
        Another. (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Jan 18, 11:59:56
        
        Another. (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Jan 18, 11:58:35
        
        Another. (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Jan 18, 11:48:33
        
        One minor example of how the peer review process in medicine (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Jan 18, 11:46:33
        
        This (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jan 18, 12:13:41
        
        The map into previous points i've made and the primary (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Jan 18, 13:05:43
        
        You aren’t civil though (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jan 18, 13:32:35
        
        There is nothing civil about posting wild conspiracy theories (General Chat) - norwaay, Jan 18, 13:08:48
        
        Go away hypocrite. (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Jan 18, 13:16:21
        
        An interesting (if over a decade old) article (General Chat) - Cardiff Canary, Jan 18, 12:06:27

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