Awareness is indeed good, and it has exposed FIFA a bit too, but

obviously awareness isn't going to really achieve any change at a state level.

People are quite rightly saying the real protest should have been when it was announced, rather than now. A boycott etc. However, while that may well have influenced FIFA against choosing countries with such laws in the future, I don't believe for one moment that it would have influenced any change in Qatar regarding the homosexuality laws. Perhaps it might have influenced a change in the rights of migrant workers (Qatar claims it already has).

The amalgamation of religion and state is where this problem originates. For a country like Qatar, where Salafism is the state sponsored religion, and very unlikely to change when it's ruled by a royal family for the foreseeable, means that they won't even see relaxing those laws as their choice. They are simply safeguarding the will of God.

Changing LGBTQI+ rights in Qatar would require a revolution and therefore the CIA, not Harry Kane's arm band.

Posted By: Legacy Fan on November 21st 2022 at 11:33:54

Message Thread

Armbanned (Other Football) - jamesward, Nov 21, 09:53:40
- Now we are going to have half hour of jug ears blubbing about it. (n/m) (Other Football) - ParrotPuncher, Nov 21, 10:59:43
  - You really are an obnoxious twat (n/m) (Other Football) - helvegtheowl, Nov 21, 12:15:40
  - I'm sure you'll cope (Other Football) - jamesward, Nov 21, 11:00:24
    - I will be laughing at the pathetic state of our country. (Other Football) - ParrotPuncher, Nov 21, 11:02:13
      - You seem paryictilary riled and uncomfortable with it all (n/m) (Other Football) - Azteca, Nov 21, 11:16:26
        
        Not really. (Other Football) - ParrotPuncher, Nov 21, 11:27:39
        
        *particularly (n/m) (Other Football) - Azteca, Nov 21, 11:16:52
      - If you guys make the final (Other Football) - Wrath analytica, Nov 21, 11:04:07
        
        The actor in Ukraine probably make an appearance as well (n/m) (Other Football) - ParrotPuncher, Nov 21, 11:11:55
- Well ,people are talking about this so it's already raised awareness . (n/m) (Other Football) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Nov 21, 10:55:29
  - Awareness is indeed good, and it has exposed FIFA a bit too, but (Other Football) - Legacy Fan, Nov 21, 11:33:54
    - That's making the assumption that Qatar is a draconian place where thought and free will (Other Football) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Nov 21, 11:45:27
      - Well no it's not (Other Football) - Legacy Fan, Nov 21, 11:59:31
        
        To perhaps be clearer (Other Football) - Legacy Fan, Nov 21, 12:06:25
  - It has, but the England captain getting booked for it (Other Football) - jamesward, Nov 21, 10:56:59
    - True,but he'd get hammered if it cost us the game.maybe wear our armband (Other Football) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Nov 21, 10:59:24
- The perfect result IMHO.... (Other Football) - usacanary, Nov 21, 10:36:10
- Imagine the horror of being shown a yellow card. Pray for Harry (n/m) (Other Football) - Ben, Nov 21, 10:13:52
  - Gazza didn’t take it well tbf (n/m) (Other Football) - SCC 28, Nov 21, 10:22:24
    - haha, that's true (n/m) (Other Football) - Ben, Nov 21, 10:27:43
- FIFA are handling this dreadfully. When they said concentrate on football (Other Football) - Azteca, Nov 21, 10:13:24
- Players should make a stand and all wear one ffs (n/m) (Other Football) - loz, Nov 21, 10:08:11
  - Agree Loz. Be one hell of a statement. (n/m) (Other Football) - Biggles, Nov 21, 10:13:27
    - Would it be a hell of a statement? (Other Football) - Mecagoenti, Nov 21, 10:17:43
      - Ok then, they should have all gone out wearing pink tutu’s. Is that better? 😂😂 (n/m) (Other Football) - Biggles, Nov 21, 12:56:50
      - You aren't allowed to have or voice these opinions the wrath will explode (n/m) (Other Football) - ParrotPuncher, Nov 21, 10:42:10
        
        Don’t be silly. He just has. (n/m) (Other Football) - Bravo win or die, Nov 21, 12:14:25
        
        Your trans and homophobic remarks on here are disgusting (n/m) (Other Football) - Lentil Weaver, Nov 21, 12:06:21
      - This kind of comment drives me crazy. We get one WC every four years. I've maybe got 5 or (Other Football) - Bravo win or die, Nov 21, 10:39:02
        
        VVVVVMT (n/m) (Other Football) - SCC 28, Nov 21, 11:17:45
        
        well, that's exactly why it would be making a genuine statement (Other Football) - Mecagoenti, Nov 21, 10:44:20
        
        Disagree. If they are as stuck in their ways as you seem to think they are, then why would (Other Football) - Bravo win or die, Nov 21, 10:54:08
        
        They've made it virtue signalling by chickening out of taking a yellow card imo (n/m) (Other Football) - jamesward, Nov 21, 10:49:34
        
        How many can you get before you're banned? Maybe they could have shared out the captaincy? (n/m) (Other Football) - Bravo win or die, Nov 21, 10:57:24
        
        Two I think. Wiped at some stage. (Other Football) - jamesward, Nov 21, 10:58:54
        
        If only Gary Lineker was still captain (n/m) (Other Football) - Bravo win or die, Nov 21, 11:04:58
        
        It's just that now we're there, I think we've got to try to win (n/m) (Other Football) - Bravo win or die, Nov 21, 10:58:17
        
        yeah, that definitely makes it look worse (Other Football) - Mecagoenti, Nov 21, 10:54:38
      - Not participating would cost the FA money (Other Football) - mr carra, Nov 21, 10:23:59
        
        And a chance of winning the World Cup (Other Football) - SCC 28, Nov 21, 10:29:51
      - Aaaarghh cunts everywhere (n/m) (Other Football) - SCC 28, Nov 21, 10:23:22
        
        I think the problem with a lot of these movements (Other Football) - Mecagoenti, Nov 21, 10:30:08
        
        If kneeling offends someone (Other Football) - SCC 28, Nov 21, 10:32:40
        
        I agree with the first part (Other Football) - Mecagoenti, Nov 21, 10:50:28
        
        It provokes racists (n/m) (Other Football) - SCC 28, Nov 21, 11:36:21
      - Qatar obviously do very much care, or they wouldn't have banned it (Other Football) - jamesward, Nov 21, 10:18:42
        
        I think they care, because they see it as a sign of disrespect (Other Football) - Mecagoenti, Nov 21, 10:26:18
        
        I thought fifa have always discouraged political protests? Or was that the ioc? (n/m) (Other Football) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Nov 21, 10:21:29
        
        They do I think. FA saying the normal sanction would be a fine (Other Football) - jamesward, Nov 21, 10:23:07
        
        On the face of it,it would ,if both sides had agreed before kick off (Other Football) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Nov 21, 10:28:54
- such an awful look (Other Football) - shoddy, Nov 21, 10:01:02
  - Apparently we are (n/m) (Other Football) - jamesward, Nov 21, 10:01:45
    - GTFI (n/m) (Other Football) - SCC 28, Nov 21, 10:13:02

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