The high taxes are due to many things, not only furlough. However, they don't like to

mention some of them:

- cost of Brexit and loss of revenue from industries affected by the loss of a huge trading partner
- sanctions on Russia and consequences of those (including energy)
- cost of military support to Ukraine
- various Covid schemes seemingly created for the sole purpose of being able to utter the (often false) phrase "world leading"
- and of course furlough plus loss of tax revenue from industries impacted by Covid.
- and finally the cost of the massive borrowing (OK, Hunt has now removed some of that but still)

All of the above are not issues which are paid for immediately. Taxes would have to remain high for years from now to even put much of a dent in those costs.

Once can argue that the Tories have been "unlucky" to be in power during the time of Brexit, Covid and the Ukraine-Russia war, but the problem is more their constant knee jerk headline-grabbing drama initiatives, often followed by a u-turn which is extremely inefficient and costs a lot of money for little benefit (if any at all). Obviously they can't really claim misfortune in the case of Brexit.

Posted By: Legacy Fan on October 17th 2022 at 12:47:38

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Energy price guarantee now lasting until April (General Chat) - jamesward, Oct 17, 11:06:13
- That was the only thing she had to bang on about at PMQs last week.. that it was 2yrs (General Chat) - JD3, Oct 17, 11:39:28
  - The SNP are on course to be the opposition in Parliament (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Oct 17, 11:40:35
- Everything from mini budget ditched apart from NI cut and stamp duty (General Chat) - jamesward, Oct 17, 11:13:56
  - I can still the nation at the voting booths going (General Chat) - Lentil Weaver, Oct 17, 12:48:39
    - Probably be a good election to lose tbh (General Chat) - jamesward, Oct 17, 13:06:19
      - the ingenuity of man knows no bounds (General Chat) - ghostof barry butler, Oct 17, 13:32:07
        
        Maybe not, but they might have had some say in making it happen (n/m) (General Chat) - APB, Oct 17, 14:31:52
        
        i think its happening (General Chat) - ghostof barry butler, Oct 17, 15:00:01
  - The economics is interesting isn't it (General Chat) - Timmy_Goat, Oct 17, 12:25:39
    - Sooner or later, either the economy grows (General Chat) - paulg, Oct 17, 13:40:07
      - I agree (General Chat) - Timmy_Goat, Oct 17, 17:37:04
    - saying the tx % is way too high is a political choice (General Chat) - CWC, Oct 17, 12:58:48
      - Many of whom seem to score higher than us on a variety of quality of life/happiness metric (General Chat) - CB41, Oct 17, 13:37:08
      - My base (n/m) (General Chat) - Legacy Fan, Oct 17, 13:09:35
        
        Try again. My baseline for this is essentially that tax levels are fine if you can see (General Chat) - Legacy Fan, Oct 17, 13:12:26
    - It's more the politics that are interesting than the economics (General Chat) - Under soil heating, Oct 17, 12:50:42
    - The high taxes are due to many things, not only furlough. However, they don't like to (General Chat) - Legacy Fan, Oct 17, 12:47:38
    - If I was going to change anything about the basic rate of income tax (General Chat) - jamesward, Oct 17, 12:33:33
      - It doesn’t help high earners (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Oct 17, 13:07:50
        
        Well they don't need help so that's OK (n/m) (General Chat) - Legacy Fan, Oct 17, 13:12:52
        
        Didn't know that (General Chat) - jamesward, Oct 17, 13:09:52
        
        £125k (General Chat) - CWC, Oct 17, 13:25:05
        
        Yeah, it means 60% tax plus NI on every £ over £100k (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Oct 17, 14:30:55
        
        No-one *needs* to earn more than £100k a year (General Chat) - jamesward, Oct 17, 14:45:52
        
        That’s not really relevant, is it? (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Oct 17, 14:54:54
        
        CTC kicks in at £50k so his figures seem suspect (n/m) (General Chat) - CWC, Oct 17, 14:39:38
        
        What do you mean? (n/m) (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Oct 17, 14:45:55
        
        might have misread (General Chat) - CWC, Oct 17, 15:12:14
        
        😂 yes (n/m) (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Oct 17, 15:13:20
      - Agree. Increase the personal allowance. (n/m) (General Chat) - Legacy Fan, Oct 17, 12:50:16
  - ha ha ha (n/m) (General Chat) - ghostof barry butler, Oct 17, 11:29:49
  - Hunt is part of the anti growth coalition (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Oct 17, 11:16:53
    - Lolz (n/m) (General Chat) - Augustus Pablo, Oct 17, 11:21:58
    - She's surely gone (n/m) (General Chat) - jamesward, Oct 17, 11:19:19
      - Untenable (General Chat) - CWC, Oct 17, 11:34:11
        
        Nothing is untenable these days. Idiots lap it up. Turkeys don't only celebrate (General Chat) - Legacy Fan, Oct 17, 12:49:27
      - Just about when she resigns now (General Chat) - SCC 28, Oct 17, 11:21:58
        
        Can she still command £100k+ a time on "the US lecture circuit"?! (n/m) (General Chat) - JD3, Oct 17, 11:38:23
        
        How disgusting is that? Nauseating. 🤮🤢 (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Oct 17, 11:49:11
        
        Who would pay 100p to hear her speak? Let alone 100k. (n/m) (General Chat) - Pixelman, Oct 17, 11:40:01
        
        Probably not even her Lib Dem parents (n/m) (General Chat) - jamesward, Oct 17, 11:41:50
        
        The Tory Corbyn (General Chat) - Old Git, Oct 17, 11:25:07
        
        The MPs did put her into the final 2 tbf (General Chat) - SCC 28, Oct 17, 11:29:07

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