A dangerous approach for what could be a relatively short term issue

Eventually additional wind and nuclear generation will come on stream and let’s be honest, we will start buying gas and oil from Russia at some point in the future (when Vlad is brown bread and the regime changes).
At that point people will be asking why they are paying way above the prevailing market rates for energy.
Sometimes you have to suffer short term periods of hardship - our grandparents did this on many occasions.
Surely the lessons of creating huge debts for future generations to fix a short term current issue haven’t been forgotten? We did this 2 years ago FFS.

Posted By: JoeyDeacon on September 6th 2022 at 09:50:19

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Looks very much like the plan is to saddle households with two decades of energy debt (General Chat) - norwaay, Sep 6, 09:27:30
- i'm using all my energy now before the prices go up. ha ha, in your faces suckers. (General Chat) - Tombs, Sep 6, 12:18:18
- Erm, I'm a bit out of the loop at the moment (General Chat) - Timmy_Goat, Sep 6, 11:26:25
  - Well (General Chat) - SCC 28, Sep 6, 11:29:46
    - This was costed at circa £40bn? (General Chat) - Timmy_Goat, Sep 6, 12:09:51
      - The cost of this will depend on how long prices stay high for I guess (General Chat) - jamesward, Sep 6, 12:14:30
      - Hitting the likes of BP and Shell not really magic (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Sep 6, 12:12:12
- Looks like an 18 month freeze (General Chat) - SCC 28, Sep 6, 11:10:12
  - And you still get 400 quid off your bills this winter (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Sep 6, 11:48:52
  - Fixed until Dec 24 at 15.1p a year ago, I am Jose mourinho (n/m) (General Chat) - Tony Martin, Sep 6, 11:41:21
- You’re all mugs, all you need is a bit of tin foil behind your radiator and you’ll be fine (n/m) (General Chat) - Augustus Pablo, Sep 6, 10:50:32
- No plans for a heating oil cap so I hear (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Sep 6, 10:50:15
  - Was it one of your sources (General Chat) - ParrotPuncher, Sep 6, 10:58:45
  - Truss out. (n/m) (General Chat) - norwaay, Sep 6, 10:53:39
    - Kwateng tbf (General Chat) - SCC 28, Sep 6, 11:04:19
      - £500 for 500 litres at the moment. Gruesome. (n/m) (General Chat) - norwaay, Sep 6, 11:28:59
        
        How many winter months would 500 litres heat for? (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Sep 6, 11:31:11
        
        Probably easier to average it out across the year as we always seem to order at different (General Chat) - norwaay, Sep 6, 11:44:25
        
        ... which is way lower usage than the replies to that tweet. (General Chat) - norwaay, Sep 6, 11:48:31
        
        Am shocked at the amount of energy some use (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Sep 6, 11:51:33
  - Fuck em (General Chat) - ghostof barry butler, Sep 6, 10:52:09
- France has just renewed their interest free loans to home owners for solar and wind power (General Chat) - Augustus Pablo, Sep 6, 10:47:38
  - Didn't the French president just go to Algeria begging for oil and gas (n/m) (General Chat) - ParrotPuncher, Sep 6, 10:58:13
- Shut up shut up shut up (General Chat) - ghostof barry butler, Sep 6, 10:30:53
  - u ok hun? (n/m) (General Chat) - norwaay, Sep 6, 10:47:40
  - lol (n/m) (General Chat) - jamesward, Sep 6, 10:32:01
- I think a better solution would be (General Chat) - Tony Martin, Sep 6, 10:29:59
  - Not that practical for the poor inner city dwellers. (n/m) (General Chat) - The Gaffer, Sep 6, 11:42:48
  - they aren't either/or options (General Chat) - CWC, Sep 6, 11:34:40
  - Takes to long (n/m) (General Chat) - ghostof barry butler, Sep 6, 10:51:21
    - that's what was said about nuclear expansion 10 years ago. It'd be online by now. (n/m) (General Chat) - CWC, Sep 6, 11:36:36
- A dangerous approach for what could be a relatively short term issue (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Sep 6, 09:50:19
  - What do you suggest we do instead (General Chat) - SCC 28, Sep 6, 10:04:06
    - Stop stupid sanctions on Russia that will solve it (General Chat) - ParrotPuncher, Sep 6, 10:16:57
      - Do you genuinely think it would? (General Chat) - CWC, Sep 6, 11:29:26
      - You are in favour of supporting war crimes then ??? (n/m) (General Chat) - loz, Sep 6, 10:22:55
        
        I'm in favour of having less bills and Norway not freezing in the winter (General Chat) - ParrotPuncher, Sep 6, 10:32:36
        
        A contrarain is just a jerk with a noble cause. In this case you have no noble cause. (n/m) (General Chat) - The Gaffer, Sep 6, 11:55:41
    - Sometimes we have to just suck it up (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Sep 6, 10:13:00
      - We should suck up crashing the economy? (General Chat) - SCC 28, Sep 6, 10:20:45
        
        It will recover (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Sep 6, 10:22:31
        
        It would but lots of devastation (General Chat) - SCC 28, Sep 6, 10:30:46
      - Just sucking it up is not an option (General Chat) - jamesward, Sep 6, 10:15:52
  - ‘Eventually’ (General Chat) - CWC, Sep 6, 10:01:12
- Blub (n/m) (General Chat) - ParrotPuncher, Sep 6, 09:49:49
- “We need to bring down energy bills” (General Chat) - Duck, Sep 6, 09:47:57
- Has she announced then what her plans are, not seen anything yet (n/m) (General Chat) - earlydoors, Sep 6, 09:47:09
  - All briefed through the press so far (General Chat) - SCC 28, Sep 6, 10:04:39
- The opposition need to start referring to this as (General Chat) - fleckmatic, Sep 6, 09:46:42
- Those on a long term fix must be a bit miffed (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Sep 6, 09:34:01
  - Many not even offering them now (General Chat) - SCC 28, Sep 6, 10:40:04
    - Actually I’m talking the ones who fixed at the start of the year (General Chat) - SCC 28, Sep 6, 10:44:40
  - No one in their right mind would surely fix at the recent levels (General Chat) - Tony Martin, Sep 6, 10:28:27
- She won't last long if so. (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Sep 6, 09:31:14
  - I mean... everyone can see that, right? (General Chat) - norwaay, Sep 6, 09:32:33
    - Must be floating policy ideas to judge reaction (n/m) (General Chat) - jamesward, Sep 6, 09:55:18
      - This idea certainly floats.... (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Sep 6, 10:58:57
      - Which they regularly do (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Sep 6, 10:48:50
    - I hope they can,and I believe most do. (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Sep 6, 09:33:21

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