Thanks for replying

Taking Burnley et al (I think these are more realistic than Leicester, tbh), what have they each achieved since they each last got promoted to the PL?

From memory, I think Burnley have qualified for Europe but got knocked out in the qualifiers before the group stage whereas Palace have lost an FA Cup final. Otherwise, for each of them the season has started with the main aim being to avoid relegation and ultimately probably losing more games than are won.

I can fully understand why to a Chief Exec that may represent success because of the PL money, however is that success from a fan's perspective?

Since we went down to L1 in 2009, the past 12 years have been brilliant fun. We've won three league titles, won a play off final at Wembley and achieved a further promotion to the PL as well.

Who do you honestly think has had the better time as a football supporter in the past few years? NCFC fans or those of Burnley, Palace, Southampton and Brighton?

Posted By: NxNW on December 28th 2021 at 18:56:37

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PM: Jim / Loz (NCFC) - NxNW, Dec 28, 18:41:27
- I would see us competing with the likes of todays opponents (NCFC) - Jim, Dec 28, 19:25:25
  - Thanks for your reply, Jim (NCFC) - NxNW, Dec 28, 19:33:21
    - Yes. I’d take being a top flight club. Finishing mid table in the prem is a (NCFC) - Jim, Dec 28, 19:51:34
      - Funny enough the fans got fed up of that exact thing under hoots. (n/m) (NCFC) - usacanary, Dec 28, 20:23:35
        
        not true (n/m) (NCFC) - bobble, Dec 28, 20:53:16
        
        No they didn’t (n/m) (NCFC) - Jim, Dec 28, 20:28:36
        
        You are rewriting history we were going down under Hoots (n/m) (NCFC) - loz, Dec 28, 20:27:00
      - 👍 (n/m) (NCFC) - NxNW, Dec 28, 19:53:07
    - There have been lots of really shit years since then (NCFC) - CWC, Dec 28, 19:43:11
      - Fair enough, I'm on the other side of the fence myself (NCFC) - NxNW, Dec 28, 19:51:27
        
        Well yes - lower mid table Prem inevitably leads to (NCFC) - Cardiff Canary, Dec 28, 20:05:26
        
        I’d also like my son not to be laughed at at school (NCFC) - CWC, Dec 28, 20:04:27
- Fair question and can I be clear my main gripe is … (NCFC) - loz, Dec 28, 18:47:31
  - How do you KNOW they have refused offers. (NCFC) - usacanary, Dec 28, 20:27:14
    - They do not listen to offers. Horses mouth. They won’t have had concrete offers because (NCFC) - Jim, Dec 28, 20:36:10
      - Unsubstantiated bullshit. (NCFC) - usacanary, Dec 28, 23:08:34
  - Thanks for replying (NCFC) - NxNW, Dec 28, 18:56:37
    - We’ve also been relegated 5 times. The promotion seasons are obviously fun but (NCFC) - Jim, Dec 28, 20:43:21
    - Spot on. (NCFC) - usacanary, Dec 28, 20:29:55
    - It’s a good point but soon … (NCFC) - loz, Dec 28, 19:01:32
      - "I refuse to believe their isn’t a prospective owner out there (that isn’t satan)" (NCFC) - Cardiff Canary, Dec 28, 19:26:52
        
        Exactly. (NCFC) - usacanary, Dec 28, 20:41:43
        
        People who think nobody has been interested in buying us in the last 25 years are gullible (n/m) (NCFC) - Jim, Dec 28, 20:44:17
        
        Cullum, Fernandes and (to an extent) the Turners (NCFC) - NxNW, Dec 28, 21:00:03
        
        Don’t believe it for a moment. And in any event hard to progress things when the owners (NCFC) - Jim, Dec 28, 22:21:22
        
        You are just making shit up based on no evidence. (NCFC) - usacanary, Dec 28, 23:10:46
        
        If we carry on as we are we'll end up not competing. (NCFC) - Men without hats, Dec 28, 19:51:40
        
        So what...that's football. (NCFC) - usacanary, Dec 28, 20:32:39
      - I disagree with your first statement, but if that is the case then so be it. (NCFC) - NxNW, Dec 28, 19:09:42
        
        Before Farke /Webber performed mission impossible …. (NCFC) - loz, Dec 28, 19:24:05
        
        You just made a case against your own argument for... (NCFC) - usacanary, Dec 28, 20:34:18
        
        Does that not justify the self-funding model then? (NCFC) - NxNW, Dec 28, 19:28:58
        
        Also... Nobody 'invests' in football (NCFC) - Cardiff Canary, Dec 28, 19:32:56
        
        As opposed to a poor cooks plaything? (NCFC) - Men without hats, Dec 28, 19:54:39
        
        As opposed to being owned by a fellow fan (NCFC) - Cardiff Canary, Dec 28, 20:02:44
        
        Amen. All of this. (n/m) (NCFC) - Old Man, Dec 28, 21:16:25
        
        Don't let logic and a well thought out argument... (NCFC) - usacanary, Dec 28, 20:38:19
        
        Chatting with a couple of quite moral Toons fan mates (NCFC) - Cardiff Canary, Dec 28, 21:32:19
        
        Not really because it means that sooner rather than later … (NCFC) - loz, Dec 28, 19:31:57
        
        Or, alternatively, our owners are some of the most experienced in the tiers (NCFC) - Cardiff Canary, Dec 28, 19:37:24
        
        IDiOt. (n/m) (NCFC) - Men without hats, Dec 28, 19:55:15
        
        :) (NCFC) - Cardiff Canary, Dec 28, 20:03:31
        
        ^ Mystic Meg (NCFC) - CWC, Dec 28, 19:46:02
    - Just to add to that... (NCFC) - Knitted Jesus, Dec 28, 18:59:57
      - a billion percent. I want us to be a top flight club. not the occasional best of the rest. (n/m) (NCFC) - bobble, Dec 28, 20:55:27
      - Yes, without a doubt (n/m) (NCFC) - CWC, Dec 28, 19:37:19
        
        Edit (NCFC) - CWC, Dec 28, 19:38:11
      - Yes. Absolutely. And the next promotion season (if there is one because it’s not (NCFC) - Jim, Dec 28, 19:27:37
- Leicester were much the same till taken over. (NCFC) - Men without hats, Dec 28, 18:44:41
  - He’s in for a lot of shit anyway… not sure he realizes that. (n/m) (NCFC) - ChengdeCanary, Dec 28, 18:57:00
    - Must be awkward for him. (NCFC) - Men without hats, Dec 28, 19:47:45
      - Sure the £80m he will no doubt bank will soften the blow (n/m) (NCFC) - Jim, Dec 28, 20:35:15
      - He will flog us off at the first opportunity (n/m) (NCFC) - CWC, Dec 28, 20:07:02

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