The book Barbarians At The Gate mentions the flop Premier a smokeless cigarette

This was abandoned quickly as it tasted awful.
Also most cigarette companies have been cash cows for decades pumping out cash to shareholders rather than innovation. The big conglomerates were caught out by vaping and ended up buying some of the vaping companies.

Posted By: Ken Breadstick on December 9th 2021 at 16:50:38

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New Zealand are going to ban tobacco in a year,I Don't (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Dec 9, 16:07:39
- Lots of bad things have been banned in the past and the world has coped. Maybe this (General Chat) - Bravo win or die, Dec 9, 18:09:44
  - That's not my point. (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Dec 9, 18:13:16
    - Sorry, to be more specific, no, I don't think it is! (n/m) (General Chat) - Bravo win or die, Dec 9, 18:16:59
      - IYou mean it's not an authoritarian clusterfuck? (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Dec 9, 18:27:35
        
        Not for me it isn’t. It’s just some kids in NZ not being allowed to do something harmful (General Chat) - Bravo win or die, Dec 9, 18:50:40
        
        I Don't disagree with any of that Bwod,my dad's mum died of cancer (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Dec 9, 19:03:04
        
        I understand what you’re saying, I suppose I think, pick your battles. (General Chat) - Bravo win or die, Dec 9, 19:16:08
        
        lol that last line (General Chat) - SCC 28, Dec 9, 19:15:49
        
        Yes. (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Dec 9, 19:20:32
        
        Maybe choose more deserving things (General Chat) - SCC 28, Dec 9, 19:22:49
        
        We've both been distracted by the point I was trying to make anyway ffs. (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Dec 9, 19:33:40
        
        I didn’t notice one tbf (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Dec 9, 19:38:23
        
        I see,you want to play . (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Dec 9, 19:40:15
        
        What are your views on chimney sweeps? (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Dec 9, 19:51:35
        
        I'm trying to be nice you pillock. (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Dec 9, 19:56:06
        
        Or maybe you stop behaving like the little Hitler twat that you (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Dec 9, 19:27:33
        
        Haha for wanting dangerous things banned (General Chat) - SCC 28, Dec 9, 19:32:25
        
        Yes I would cry.😓 read above please. (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Dec 9, 19:35:16
- It stinks. But full on ban? Should still be allowed to smoke it in your own home. (n/m) (General Chat) - LeftSide, Dec 9, 17:51:46
- It kills people and it isn't much fun. (n/m) (General Chat) - norwaay, Dec 9, 17:36:14
  - I don't think banning bad things is a bad idea. (General Chat) - norwaay, Dec 9, 18:09:37
    - Erm,the reaction of the American populace to the volstead act? (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Dec 9, 18:40:19
      - No sorry - you've lost me. (n/m) (General Chat) - norwaay, Dec 9, 18:48:56
        
        Jesus man,you're so conceited and arrogant you think (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Dec 9, 20:15:08
        
        No, I just mean you've seriously lost me. (General Chat) - norwaay, Dec 9, 20:39:56
        
        Oh (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Dec 9, 20:49:03
        
        🤣🤣🤣 (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Dec 9, 20:07:06
  - Yeah I know, I also know you know that isn't (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Dec 9, 17:49:57
  - as does sport (General Chat) - Tombs, Dec 9, 17:41:48
- Utterly authoritarian (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Dec 9, 16:43:03
  - For me the difference is there is no way to have a healthy relationship with smoking... (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Dec 9, 17:31:13
    - I dunno, I can switch on and off whenever there’s a free rolly available. (General Chat) - Augustus Pablo, Dec 9, 17:55:18
  - But no where near as muck of a joke as that fat fuck charlatan we (General Chat) - CB41, Dec 9, 17:13:08
    - Agreed (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Dec 9, 17:21:13
    - I agree he's a fat useless buffoon ant this government are (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Dec 9, 17:17:59
      - ‘Reverting’?? (General Chat) - CWC, Dec 9, 19:42:16
  - You're just cynical- (General Chat) - Captain Bligh, Dec 9, 16:49:44
  - *why not* alcohol (n/m) (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Dec 9, 16:43:25
- Only way nanny State can save the NZ NHS (General Chat) - KevinBond, Dec 9, 16:36:21
  - Lucky them :) (n/m) (General Chat) - Bravo win or die, Dec 9, 16:55:43
    - Amen to that (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Dec 9, 17:12:14
- Good luck with that 👍 (n/m) (General Chat) - Captain Bligh, Dec 9, 16:26:17
- Was going to say what a brilliant idea that is (General Chat) - SCC 28, Dec 9, 16:12:48
  - They should do the same with gambling (n/m) (General Chat) - Ken Breadstick, Dec 9, 16:51:41
  - I hate tobacco ,not a smoker, and I agree with APB down there.But (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Dec 9, 16:25:12
    - Cool. Will we have that sex box thing? (n/m) (General Chat) - Captain Bligh, Dec 9, 16:30:57
  - I'm always amazed, given the money tobacco companies have, that they haven't invented ... (General Chat) - APB, Dec 9, 16:19:22
    - The book Barbarians At The Gate mentions the flop Premier a smokeless cigarette (General Chat) - Ken Breadstick, Dec 9, 16:50:38
    - Isn't that basically what vaping is? (n/m) (General Chat) - Basil Wrathbone, Dec 9, 16:30:08
      - It's an attempt but it's shit (General Chat) - APB, Dec 9, 17:12:26
        
        The Great British Vape Off (n/m) (General Chat) - Augustus Pablo, Dec 9, 17:22:25
        
        roflcopters (n/m) (General Chat) - Basil Wrathbone, Dec 9, 17:16:27
    - Great idea and it’s given me a thought (General Chat) - Malkybarneedledick, Dec 9, 16:22:50
      - Healthy alcohol is the answer (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Dec 9, 16:25:52
        
        Alcohol is healthy! It makes you look hard and the girls fancy you! (General Chat) - APB, Dec 9, 17:14:14
        
        I really need to drink more then it never worked for me. (n/m) (General Chat) - Malkybarneedledick, Dec 9, 18:35:35
        
        Well you were led astray young man (n/m) (General Chat) - Augustus Pablo, Dec 9, 17:42:28
    - This discussion I predict will broadly be split down the midlle (General Chat) - ghostof barry butler, Dec 9, 16:22:17
      - I sit on the left of things, but I don't like banning things. (General Chat) - Basil Wrathbone, Dec 9, 17:19:38
      - Surely everyone would want non deadly cigarettes (General Chat) - SCC 28, Dec 9, 16:24:12

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