Was that the 2nd one?

Would need to see the replay again but don’t remember thinking his arm was unnaturally in the way?

First one I did say I can see how it might be given, but for me it didn’t feel so obviously wrong that VAR should overturn it (likewise if it ‘had’ been given, I wouldn’t want it overturned).

Posted By: CWC on December 1st 2021 at 09:13:26

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I know we weren’t great but those two penalty shouts still winding me up (NCFC) - Jim, Dec 1, 08:03:04
- These pitchside monitors put huge pressure on refs to give home teams the benefit (NCFC) - Munich93, Dec 1, 08:20:19
  - Once they are told to go there and shown the slowest possible, cherry picked image the (NCFC) - Jim, Dec 1, 08:21:36
    - Agree when they look at pitch side it’s inevitable (n/m) (NCFC) - loz, Dec 1, 08:29:20
- The first one looked a pen to me (NCFC) - 51eve, Dec 1, 08:08:10
  - They said they were reviewing it which makes it even more frustrating (n/m) (NCFC) - Jim, Dec 1, 08:20:24
  - The second one I didn’t think was a pen (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Dec 1, 08:12:49
    - I guess arm over head is always clear & obvious error (NCFC) - CWC, Dec 1, 08:30:03
      - Arm over head is considered an unnatural way to jump. (n/m) (NCFC) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Dec 1, 09:35:40
      - genuine question - can i ask why you think its not a pen when a defender dives in front (NCFC) - Jim, Dec 1, 09:03:13
        
        Was that the 2nd one? (NCFC) - CWC, Dec 1, 09:13:26
        
        Yes - see the link below posted by Declan (n/m) (NCFC) - Jim, Dec 1, 09:14:20
        
        That little video clip is fairly damning for me (NCFC) - Under soil heating, Dec 1, 09:21:08
        
        Isn’t it Idah’s contact that pushes his arm into the ball? (NCFC) - CWC, Dec 1, 09:35:03
        
        I wouldn’t. Both were blatant handballs. Idah doesn’t barge him he throws himself in front (NCFC) - Jim, Dec 1, 10:03:11
        
        They will say its because his arms are not in an unnatural position given his movement (NCFC) - Jim, Dec 1, 09:25:43
    - Second one possibly more of a pen. Don’t know how to post a link to it though (n/m) (NCFC) - Jim, Dec 1, 08:19:43
      - Link here... (NCFC) - Declan, Dec 1, 08:21:37
        
        We didn't even get a corner which made it worse!! (n/m) (NCFC) - neilo, Dec 1, 08:35:50
        
        Well that's a nailed on pen. He's made a movement with his arm (NCFC) - jamesward, Dec 1, 08:34:28
        
        Didn't even get a corner out of it, ref gave a goal kick! (n/m) (NCFC) - Declan, Dec 1, 08:35:49
        
        Cheers. Have you got the first as well? (n/m) (NCFC) - Jim, Dec 1, 08:22:22
        
        First one here...'there is a VAR check'...maybe the monitor was broken?! (NCFC) - Declan, Dec 1, 08:31:37
        
        What that means is Mason told him he didn't need to look at it again. (n/m) (NCFC) - Jim, Dec 1, 09:20:18
        
        That's even worse than I remember. (n/m) (NCFC) - norwaay, Dec 1, 08:43:18
        
        I think what in the refs eye stop that being given (NCFC) - Whyohwhy, Dec 1, 08:37:16
  - We don't help ourselves though (NCFC) - delia_s, Dec 1, 08:12:09
    - This, 100%. (NCFC) - Under soil heating, Dec 1, 09:08:30

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