I guess arm over head is always clear & obvious error

Arm in a low position is more subjective so ref gets benefit of the doubt?

I’d have been pissed off if the first one was given against us (though can see how it might be). 2nd not a pen for me. No issue with theirs.

Posted By: CWC on December 1st 2021 at 08:30:03

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I know we weren’t great but those two penalty shouts still winding me up (NCFC) - Jim, Dec 1, 08:03:04
- These pitchside monitors put huge pressure on refs to give home teams the benefit (NCFC) - Munich93, Dec 1, 08:20:19
  - Once they are told to go there and shown the slowest possible, cherry picked image the (NCFC) - Jim, Dec 1, 08:21:36
    - Agree when they look at pitch side it’s inevitable (n/m) (NCFC) - loz, Dec 1, 08:29:20
- The first one looked a pen to me (NCFC) - 51eve, Dec 1, 08:08:10
  - They said they were reviewing it which makes it even more frustrating (n/m) (NCFC) - Jim, Dec 1, 08:20:24
  - The second one I didn’t think was a pen (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Dec 1, 08:12:49
    - I guess arm over head is always clear & obvious error (NCFC) - CWC, Dec 1, 08:30:03
      - Arm over head is considered an unnatural way to jump. (n/m) (NCFC) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Dec 1, 09:35:40
      - genuine question - can i ask why you think its not a pen when a defender dives in front (NCFC) - Jim, Dec 1, 09:03:13
        
        Was that the 2nd one? (NCFC) - CWC, Dec 1, 09:13:26
        
        Yes - see the link below posted by Declan (n/m) (NCFC) - Jim, Dec 1, 09:14:20
        
        That little video clip is fairly damning for me (NCFC) - Under soil heating, Dec 1, 09:21:08
        
        Isn’t it Idah’s contact that pushes his arm into the ball? (NCFC) - CWC, Dec 1, 09:35:03
        
        I wouldn’t. Both were blatant handballs. Idah doesn’t barge him he throws himself in front (NCFC) - Jim, Dec 1, 10:03:11
        
        They will say its because his arms are not in an unnatural position given his movement (NCFC) - Jim, Dec 1, 09:25:43
    - Second one possibly more of a pen. Don’t know how to post a link to it though (n/m) (NCFC) - Jim, Dec 1, 08:19:43
      - Link here... (NCFC) - Declan, Dec 1, 08:21:37
        
        We didn't even get a corner which made it worse!! (n/m) (NCFC) - neilo, Dec 1, 08:35:50
        
        Well that's a nailed on pen. He's made a movement with his arm (NCFC) - jamesward, Dec 1, 08:34:28
        
        Didn't even get a corner out of it, ref gave a goal kick! (n/m) (NCFC) - Declan, Dec 1, 08:35:49
        
        Cheers. Have you got the first as well? (n/m) (NCFC) - Jim, Dec 1, 08:22:22
        
        First one here...'there is a VAR check'...maybe the monitor was broken?! (NCFC) - Declan, Dec 1, 08:31:37
        
        What that means is Mason told him he didn't need to look at it again. (n/m) (NCFC) - Jim, Dec 1, 09:20:18
        
        That's even worse than I remember. (n/m) (NCFC) - norwaay, Dec 1, 08:43:18
        
        I think what in the refs eye stop that being given (NCFC) - Whyohwhy, Dec 1, 08:37:16
  - We don't help ourselves though (NCFC) - delia_s, Dec 1, 08:12:09
    - This, 100%. (NCFC) - Under soil heating, Dec 1, 09:08:30

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