I don’t even follow your logic.
Whether they told us or not, the club’s management had made a clear promise not to stand in the way of young players if they wanted to move to a bigger club (unfortunately Villa are just that).
If they had not kept that promise, it would have destroyed trust between the entire squad and management, especially those other young players who might feel that one day, sooner or later, they might be in a similar situation.
Therefore, the club would have to assess a value which they thought was fair to the club, but also didn’t effectively become a refusal to sell.
The only way they could spark a “bidding war” was either to state the player was not for sale at any price or announce valuation at something entirely unrealistic like 100m, then reject some perfectly reasonable bids and hope that the intended war ensued.
If the bidding war didn’t happen, either the deal falls through and the player feels betrayed and the rest of the squad loses trust, or the club would have to climb down and accept a fraction of their public valuation which would result in Webber not being taken seriously in future negotiations, not to mention you being very unhappy that we accepted the bid despite valuing him at 100m.
If we said he was not for sale at any price, and then sold him, well. We’ve been here before I think (Chris Sutton).
I only raised the point that they had told us to move this discussion from the realms of supposition to fact-based.
Posted By: Legacy Fan on June 9th 2021 at 11:28:29
Message Thread
- Piece written jointly by Bailey and AN Other in the Athletic seems to suggest we agreed (NCFC) - Jim, Jun 9, 09:30:32
- BREAKING NEWS:.... Football clubs and Journos.... (NCFC) - usacanary, Jun 9, 16:14:17
- that piece also DIRECTLY CONTRADICTS (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Jun 9, 10:28:05
- .... (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Jun 9, 12:08:43
- Does it? (n/m) (NCFC) - Azteca, Jun 9, 11:47:36
- doh! see above (n/m) (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Jun 9, 12:09:23
- You cant seeds difference between preliminary discussions (NCFC) - Azteca, Jun 9, 12:12:19
- yes, I do. (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Jun 9, 12:28:08
- It's all semantics (NCFC) - Azteca, Jun 9, 12:38:33
- of course (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Jun 9, 13:18:46
- on Friday the Pink Un said (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Jun 9, 13:57:29
- of course (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Jun 9, 13:18:46
- It's all semantics (NCFC) - Azteca, Jun 9, 12:38:33
- yes, I do. (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Jun 9, 12:28:08
- You cant seeds difference between preliminary discussions (NCFC) - Azteca, Jun 9, 12:12:19
- doh! see above (n/m) (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Jun 9, 12:09:23
- Probably the difference between making a formal offer and agreeing a number (n/m) (NCFC) - Ben, Jun 9, 10:46:21
- Yeah, club mugged us off a bit there (NCFC) - jamesward, Jun 9, 10:33:41
- Sensible posters warned not to dismiss the possibility he could go to Villa (n/m) (NCFC) - Azteca, Jun 9, 11:55:53
- Different point entirely (n/m) (NCFC) - jamesward, Jun 9, 12:06:13
- Not all of us (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jun 9, 11:03:38
- it is possible that Oink were truthfuuly briefed but chose (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Jun 9, 10:44:30
- Indeed. Maybe using a different interpretation of the word "bid" (n/m) (NCFC) - jamesward, Jun 9, 10:45:56
- I said at the time it sounded like they’d been careful (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jun 9, 11:04:39
- you also said (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Jun 9, 11:23:28
- Yes I think I said I was amazed that they did (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jun 9, 11:44:48
- suspect that Dean Smith does a decent presentation (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Jun 9, 12:03:50
- Yes I think I said I was amazed that they did (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jun 9, 11:44:48
- Wasn't faxed on headed paper? (n/m) (NCFC) - jamesward, Jun 9, 11:16:00
- on headed paper "From the Desk of Douglas Ellis" (n/m) (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Jun 9, 11:29:05
- you also said (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Jun 9, 11:23:28
- I said at the time it sounded like they’d been careful (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jun 9, 11:04:39
- Indeed. Maybe using a different interpretation of the word "bid" (n/m) (NCFC) - jamesward, Jun 9, 10:45:56
- Sensible posters warned not to dismiss the possibility he could go to Villa (n/m) (NCFC) - Azteca, Jun 9, 11:55:53
- Don't be daft. Once we've accepted an offer from Villa, no one is going to offer more (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Jun 9, 10:01:17
- Rare sensible post klaxon (n/m) (NCFC) - scruffy, Jun 9, 12:59:48
- VMT (NCFC) - mr carra, Jun 9, 11:20:36
- I like it when other fans on the Internet apply reason and logic. It's so rare. (NCFC) - trafford_canary, Jun 9, 11:07:31
- Nobody bid more tho or said they wanted to (NCFC) - paulg, Jun 9, 09:50:18
- to be fair Jim, if we had instigated a bidding war (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Jun 9, 09:43:41
- Not really. My issue is ability to compete in the premier league. We are ok in the (NCFC) - Jim, Jun 9, 09:48:36
- Do you know what Jim, I think that might just be what Webber & Farke are planning to be (NCFC) - NxNW, Jun 9, 09:54:24
- I'm sure they are trying their best to be so. They have their hands tied behind (NCFC) - Jim, Jun 9, 10:05:20
- Jim, this is a nonsence. At worst they're into BDSM. (NCFC) - trafford_canary, Jun 9, 11:24:57
- Ownership model is a different argument though (NCFC) - jamesward, Jun 9, 10:07:43
- I'm sure they are trying their best to be so. They have their hands tied behind (NCFC) - Jim, Jun 9, 10:05:20
- so you would be 'happier' (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Jun 9, 09:54:10
- Do you know what Jim, I think that might just be what Webber & Farke are planning to be (NCFC) - NxNW, Jun 9, 09:54:24
- *chortles* (n/m) (NCFC) - NxNW, Jun 9, 09:46:18
- Buendía told Norwich he wanted to leave (NCFC) - MIKEWALKER, Jun 9, 09:46:13
- Not really. My issue is ability to compete in the premier league. We are ok in the (NCFC) - Jim, Jun 9, 09:48:36
- Get a decent price, get it done early and have all summer to go shopping (n/m) (NCFC) - Adster, Jun 9, 09:42:58
- Yes, I suspect it was important for us to get cash in quickly (NCFC) - mr carra, Jun 9, 09:47:16
- On the basis we must have known he was going (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Jun 9, 10:12:14
- This is exactly it (NCFC) - Knitted Jesus, Jun 9, 09:52:02
- Yes, I suspect it was important for us to get cash in quickly (NCFC) - mr carra, Jun 9, 09:47:16
- Bidding war was only possible if our stance was “not for sale”. (NCFC) - Legacy Fan, Jun 9, 09:41:59
- Just because they tell you something is going to happen doesn't mean its right or you have (NCFC) - Jim, Jun 9, 09:46:49
- NCFC have been sponsored by a shady gambling company who market their product through (NCFC) - Legacy Fan, Jun 9, 09:52:55
- I know but if "they told us they were going to do it" is an answer to everything then (NCFC) - Jim, Jun 9, 10:06:46
- I don’t even follow your logic. (NCFC) - Legacy Fan, Jun 9, 11:28:29
- I know but if "they told us they were going to do it" is an answer to everything then (NCFC) - Jim, Jun 9, 10:06:46
- NCFC have been sponsored by a shady gambling company who market their product through (NCFC) - Legacy Fan, Jun 9, 09:52:55
- Just because they tell you something is going to happen doesn't mean its right or you have (NCFC) - Jim, Jun 9, 09:46:49
- I said the other day you don’t get bidding wars these days (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jun 9, 09:35:41
- The only bidding war you would get is for wages to get the player to come to you (NCFC) - trafford_canary, Jun 9, 11:12:56
- Correct. I've said the same above (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Jun 9, 10:04:11
- Yeah we aren’t run by mugs (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jun 9, 10:11:09
- Commercial mugs, not football mugs (NCFC) - jamesward, Jun 9, 10:13:12
- And that Franke bloke (n/m) (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Jun 9, 10:56:29
- Commercial mugs, not football mugs (NCFC) - jamesward, Jun 9, 10:13:12
- Yeah we aren’t run by mugs (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jun 9, 10:11:09
- Have you ever sold a house? (NCFC) - NxNW, Jun 9, 09:34:14
- Did we include all white goods and the lightbulbs? (n/m) (NCFC) - Augustus Pablo, Jun 9, 09:44:21
- Why do you think it's not been confirmed yet (NCFC) - inutero, Jun 9, 09:58:34
- We valued him too low and we have sold to the first offer meeting that pathetic valuation (NCFC) - Jim, Jun 9, 09:43:41
- Christ Jim, one would of thought after 4 years you would of got to grips with the model (NCFC) - KetteringRyu, Jun 9, 12:41:17
- Honestly (NCFC) - paulg, Jun 9, 10:01:35
- We patently havent else there would have been more clubs sniffing around (NCFC) - CWC, Jun 9, 10:01:27
- So if you were in charge you’d keep him (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jun 9, 09:56:05
- Which he’d never have signed of course (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jun 9, 10:13:51
- Yes I would have kept him and offered him a new contract (n/m) (NCFC) - Jim, Jun 9, 10:05:51
- Which he wouldn't have signed. Then what? (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Jun 9, 10:10:19
- Did we include all white goods and the lightbulbs? (n/m) (NCFC) - Augustus Pablo, Jun 9, 09:44:21
- Bidding war between 2 clubs (NCFC) - inutero, Jun 9, 09:34:11
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