I don't. I'm on the fence.

I believe in rational informed decisions. I look into both sides. The pros and the cons. There's no proof yet the vaccine prevents catching or spreading the virus. 2.7 percent of participants reporting serious adverse reactions is a little too steap for a vaccine where long rerm effects are not yet known.The programme is not transparent. What makes my antibodies from catching covid in November less effective than the vaccine? I'll wait and see how it plans out for a while. People will take the vaccine without being properly informed of the risk to reward factor and that for me is wrong. There's no way this magically ends restrictions and lock downs while there's no proof it prevents the spread.

Posted By: Alan on January 22nd 2021 at 11:28:51

Message Thread

Even the French are less hesitant now (Coronavirus) - SCC 28, Jan 22, 10:07:28
- interesting to see which countries are anti vaccinations (n/m) (Coronavirus) - Tombs, Jan 22, 11:10:46
- Probably realising that the sooner they're vaccinated the sooner the lockdown ends. (n/m) (Coronavirus) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Jan 22, 10:25:42
  - And nobody’s head has fallen off yet (n/m) (Coronavirus) - SCC 28, Jan 22, 10:32:09
    - Apart from the 10 deaths in Germany last week? (n/m) (Coronavirus) - Alan, Jan 22, 10:57:49
      - Looks like you've been taken in by misinformation (Coronavirus) - SimonOTBC, Jan 22, 12:46:15
      - 10 deaths caused by the vaccine? (n/m) (Coronavirus) - SimonOTBC, Jan 22, 11:38:39
        
        dies with the vaccine, not necessarily of the vaccine (Coronavirus) - CWC, Jan 22, 11:43:24
        
        Yep, that's what I got from reading MD in Private Eye this week (Coronavirus) - jamesward, Jan 22, 11:48:28
        
        Yeah Fauci said he felt pretty rough the next day (n/m) (Coronavirus) - SCC 28, Jan 22, 11:47:34
        
        Yes, that's the point of my question to Alan (n/m) (Coronavirus) - SimonOTBC, Jan 22, 11:46:35
      - People who have taken the vaccine have died? (Coronavirus) - SCC 28, Jan 22, 11:02:32
        
        He's not an anti-vaxxer by any means though. (n/m) (Coronavirus) - Tricky Hawes, Jan 22, 11:04:36
        
        Well no. How can I be if I had my flu vaccine two months ago? (Coronavirus) - Alan, Jan 22, 11:19:39
        
        there is science to support it (Coronavirus) - CWC, Jan 22, 12:05:58
        
        Also when you go in there is a list of chemicals/ingredients or whatever (Coronavirus) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Jan 22, 11:45:32
        
        Listen,I've got an auto immune disease and have had adverse reactions to some (Coronavirus) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Jan 22, 11:43:01
        
        It's the long term effects (Coronavirus) - Alan, Jan 22, 12:11:56
        
        This isn’t new technology (Coronavirus) - SCC 28, Jan 22, 12:23:28
        
        *pique (n/m) (Coronavirus) - jamesward, Jan 22, 12:21:43
        
        *blinders (n/m) (Coronavirus) - Tombs, Jan 22, 12:58:42
        
        Provide the link to the CDC report that states 2.7% serious adverse reactions? (n/m) (Coronavirus) - SimonOTBC, Jan 22, 12:18:10
- What's up with the Germans? (n/m) (Coronavirus) - Clairvoyant Creosote, Jan 22, 10:14:53
  - Probably the 10 deaths last week. (n/m) (Coronavirus) - Alan, Jan 22, 10:59:07
    - Why do you think this particular vaccine (Coronavirus) - SCC 28, Jan 22, 11:04:24
      - I don't. I'm on the fence. (Coronavirus) - Alan, Jan 22, 11:28:51
        
        the vaccine doesn't need to stop the spread (Coronavirus) - CWC, Jan 22, 12:08:37
        
        There's definitely proof that fewer people catch it (Coronavirus) - jamesward, Jan 22, 11:52:36
        
        What information do you require that isn't available to make an informed decision? (Coronavirus) - SimonOTBC, Jan 22, 11:49:34
        
        The 2.7% is often quoted on Twitter (Coronavirus) - SCC 28, Jan 22, 12:02:13
        
        We do, but "serious adverse side effects"? (n/m) (Coronavirus) - SimonOTBC, Jan 22, 12:09:22
        
        If you look at the notes that come with ANY prescription medication they've all got pot (Coronavirus) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Jan 22, 12:54:06
        
        Of course, but not with a 2.7% chance (n/m) (Coronavirus) - SimonOTBC, Jan 22, 13:42:03
        
        this is an easy read on some of the reported adverse risks (Coronavirus) - CWC, Jan 22, 12:25:09
        
        Those pesky details (Coronavirus) - SCC 28, Jan 22, 12:40:34
        
        Thanks - that looks pretty inconclusive to me (Coronavirus) - SimonOTBC, Jan 22, 12:30:59
        
        or fairly conclusive that the additional risks aren't material (n/m) (Coronavirus) - CWC, Jan 22, 12:47:12
        
        Sample size is too small to state with positive confidence, isn’t it? (Coronavirus) - SimonOTBC, Jan 22, 13:32:21
        
        ok, commercially reasonable degree of confidence that the additional risks aren't material (n/m) (Coronavirus) - CWC, Jan 22, 14:02:30
        
        So much misinformation related to covid (Coronavirus) - SCC 28, Jan 22, 12:43:16
        
        It's so easy to do a bit of your own research and establish what has legs and what doesn't (Coronavirus) - SimonOTBC, Jan 22, 12:47:15
        
        I love how i'm being labeled an anti vaxxer (Coronavirus) - Alan, Jan 22, 13:10:22
        
        Some of my in-laws are exactly like Alan (Coronavirus) - jamesward, Jan 22, 12:50:09
        
        There are lots of reasons not believe a government, it's doctors I trust. (n/m) (Coronavirus) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Jan 22, 13:38:05
        
        Yep (n/m) (Coronavirus) - jamesward, Jan 22, 13:57:43
        
        Alan? You OK mate? You still there? (n/m) (Coronavirus) - jamesward, Jan 22, 12:36:56
        
        I got my information from... (Coronavirus) - Alan, Jan 22, 13:01:23
        
        Do you have a link to Whittkowski using the same stat? (n/m) (Coronavirus) - SimonOTBC, Jan 22, 13:48:29
        
        That’s an anti vax propaganda link, isn’t it? (n/m) (Coronavirus) - SimonOTBC, Jan 22, 13:35:50
        
        I did at least get some pleasing info from the thread (Coronavirus) - SCC 28, Jan 22, 13:43:16
        
        Interested to know where you found the link to that (n/m) (Coronavirus) - jamesward, Jan 22, 13:19:18
        
        Originally I mean, what led you to that video? (n/m) (Coronavirus) - jamesward, Jan 22, 13:19:51
        
        Upon searching the guy (Coronavirus) - SCC 28, Jan 22, 13:26:29
        
        Oh Norway will love this! (Coronavirus) - SCC 28, Jan 22, 13:29:17
        
        I had no idea peter ebdon has retired from snooker to become a lunatic (n/m) (Coronavirus) - SimonOTBC, Jan 22, 13:37:28
        
        Yep even had a run in with Norway on Twitter (n/m) (Coronavirus) - SCC 28, Jan 22, 13:51:44
        
        Haha, really? I missed that (n/m) (Coronavirus) - jamesward, Jan 22, 13:58:37
        
        I don't believe the pandemic is hoax, for the record.... (Coronavirus) - Alan, Jan 22, 13:04:54
        
        The science of a covid denier lol (Coronavirus) - SCC 28, Jan 22, 13:14:26
        
        Been a while since I’ve heard his name (Coronavirus) - SCC 28, Jan 22, 13:04:27
        
        And didn’t this age well (Coronavirus) - SCC 28, Jan 22, 13:08:16
        
        Yeah this rings true (Coronavirus) - SCC 28, Jan 22, 13:10:47
        
        Found this from a smiley twat (Coronavirus) - SCC 28, Jan 22, 12:13:01
        
        And that would have applied to someone like Fauci (Coronavirus) - SCC 28, Jan 22, 12:27:10
        
        Which is mild by all accounts, isn't it?! (Coronavirus) - SimonOTBC, Jan 22, 12:36:23
        
        Yeah defo wouldn’t call it serious (Coronavirus) - SCC 28, Jan 22, 12:38:37
        
        Sigh (n/m) (Coronavirus) - SimonOTBC, Jan 22, 12:39:11
        
        So you’re undecided whether it’s a killer? (Coronavirus) - SCC 28, Jan 22, 11:35:16

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