Like poppy wearing

There's an awareness benefit from doing this stuff which runs the risk of losing meaning over time. (we're not there yet for the kneeling... Poppies... More debatable)

It'd be useful for the debate to move onto practical changes.

See also #metoo and climate change

(its important that public awareness and concern is channeled to real change too)

Posted By: Cardiff Canary on September 19th 2020 at 08:31:06

Message Thread

Kneeling (NCFC) - Captain Bligh, Sep 19, 07:32:07
- Why is it so bad for there to be a symbolic gesture to show solidarity and support to (NCFC) - essexcanaryOTBC, Sep 19, 12:15:10
  - Stop using capitals. (NCFC) - jonncfc, Sep 19, 13:40:52
    - BLACK LIVES MATTER (NCFC) - essexcanaryOTBC, Sep 19, 14:24:29
    - wow - ok then lol (NCFC) - essexcanaryOTBC, Sep 19, 14:22:02
- I reckon you’re all actually closer in ageement with each other than it (NCFC) - Augustus Pablo, Sep 19, 10:17:54
  - The basic message is togetherness. Most see it that way (NCFC) - Agatha Fisty, Sep 19, 10:24:07
  - Hammer. Nail. Head. (NCFC) - Captain Bligh, Sep 19, 10:21:52
    - no problem from my end (NCFC) - ghostof barry butler, Sep 19, 10:56:56
  - Hammer. Nail. Head. (NCFC) - Captain Bligh, Sep 19, 10:21:42
  - Definitely (NCFC) - Cardiff Canary, Sep 19, 10:20:15
    - It’s a tactic to ignore the real message that Black Lives Matter (n/m) (NCFC) - essexcanaryOTBC, Sep 19, 12:39:24
      - If you stopped using capitals (NCFC) - jonncfc, Sep 19, 13:39:17
    - Indeed (n/m) (NCFC) - Augustus Pablo, Sep 19, 10:30:41
- Ben , delete this thread please (n/m) (NCFC) - Agatha Fisty, Sep 19, 09:30:09
  - Who are you? The thought police? (NCFC) - jonncfc, Sep 19, 09:32:07
    - I've had posts deleted recently which doesn't even touch the surface of the (NCFC) - Agatha Fisty, Sep 19, 09:35:53
      - We're all beholden to the thoughts of one person these days. (n/m) (NCFC) - Yellalee, Sep 19, 09:42:14
- Most of us don’t support overthrowing (NCFC) - jonncfc, Sep 19, 08:40:31
  - There seems to be a lot of confusion (NCFC) - Cardiff Canary, Sep 19, 09:00:42
    - I get the feeling that there is probably a direct correlation (NCFC) - norwaay, Sep 19, 09:31:02
      - If you have taken the time and trouble to look at the BLM website(s) (NCFC) - jonncfc, Sep 19, 09:35:12
        
        I'm not arguing with you and that wasn't the point I was making. (n/m) (NCFC) - norwaay, Sep 19, 09:36:43
    - It’s a clear and deliberate conflation (NCFC) - jonncfc, Sep 19, 09:05:26
      - It's a classic tactic, you're right (NCFC) - paulg, Sep 19, 10:01:51
      - So the question is (NCFC) - Cardiff Canary, Sep 19, 09:11:29
        
        And, of course, a failure to outwardly demonstrate support for BLM (NCFC) - jonncfc, Sep 19, 09:25:09
- Eg James McClean, parished for his views instead of respecting it innit (n/m) (NCFC) - Agatha Fisty, Sep 19, 08:37:22
  - Pariahed not parished (n/m) (NCFC) - Agatha Fisty, Sep 19, 08:37:49
- Like poppy wearing (NCFC) - Cardiff Canary, Sep 19, 08:31:06
  - Environmental ideals and individual desires (NCFC) - Cardiff Canary, Sep 19, 08:33:35
- Agree, that’s why I think asking for EFL guidance is wrong. It should be player choice (n/m) (NCFC) - forzancfc, Sep 19, 08:22:35
- It’s 5 seconds. As players of colour are in most dressing rooms... (NCFC) - BigGrantHolt, Sep 19, 08:16:16
  - Yes (NCFC) - Captain Bligh, Sep 19, 08:46:21
    - wrong (NCFC) - ghostof barry butler, Sep 19, 08:58:46
      - Really? (NCFC) - Captain Bligh, Sep 19, 09:15:22
        
        Which actually (NCFC) - Captain Bligh, Sep 19, 09:24:27
        
        Sounds about right! (n/m) (NCFC) - paulg, Sep 19, 10:05:06
        
        stop being an idiot (NCFC) - ghostof barry butler, Sep 19, 09:30:05
        
        I'm not (NCFC) - Captain Bligh, Sep 19, 09:39:37
        
        i guess your were in a way ... my bad (NCFC) - ghostof barry butler, Sep 19, 09:47:49
        
        Not 'in a way' at all (NCFC) - Captain Bligh, Sep 19, 10:00:14

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