No-one is saying that

"unless you are black or a person of colour (or whatever phrase is currently in use) you cannot express a view on or judge whether something is racist"

No-one at all.

The point is that *there will be times* when people who don't face unspoken and implicit negative discrimination every day - eg privately educated white males - don't see it happening to others. Even when it is. And don't realise the extent to which they are regularly given advantages that others aren't.

So when one someone in a group like that says "of course this isn't discrimination" or "of course this isn't racism", it can be legitimate for people who face discrimination much more often themselves to point that the first group may just not be seeing it. Because of their privilege.

Posted By: Tricky Hawes on January 22nd 2020 at 14:44:09

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I'm begining to rather like Lisa Nandy - got a bit of guts to her (General Chat) - paulg, Jan 22, 13:49:28
- Is she 'common' enough to appeal to those up north ? (General Chat) - MORDENCANARY, Jan 22, 14:46:31
  - She has the accent (n/m) (General Chat) - KetteringRyu, Jan 22, 16:20:03
  - Maybe Black Pudding earrings would add the common touch. (n/m) (General Chat) - usacanary, Jan 22, 15:39:16
- I quite like Nandy as well. Talks some sense although I don’t (General Chat) - Jim, Jan 22, 14:36:26
  - No-one is saying that (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Jan 22, 14:44:09
    - 👏👏👏 (n/m) (General Chat) - avenging canary, Jan 22, 15:23:12
    - Indeed (General Chat) - duke of york, Jan 22, 15:01:18
    - Some are saying it though and I get that “white privileged males” may (General Chat) - Jim, Jan 22, 14:58:22
      - Well, everything you've just said is an assertion. Building a straw man to attack. (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Jan 22, 15:11:23
        
        She was effectively saying that. She was saying he’s not (General Chat) - Jim, Jan 22, 15:48:04
        
        Shuddup honky! I ain’t talking to you! (n/m) (General Chat) - Reni Eddo Lodge, Jan 22, 16:45:24
        
        that's horseshit Jim (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Jan 22, 16:12:51
        
        What has his colour got to do with it?..... (General Chat) - yellowman, Jan 22, 16:20:23
        
        Difference between "privilege" and "white privilege" (General Chat) - Yurik Hunt, Jan 22, 16:40:08
        
        👏👏👏+ (n/m) (General Chat) - avenging canary, Jan 22, 17:11:13
        
        ^^^ This is extremely well put. POTD. ^^^ (n/m) (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Jan 22, 16:49:42
        
        agreed, nicely done (n/m) (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Jan 22, 17:07:35
        
        Privileged BAME people still experience racism (General Chat) - duke of york, Jan 22, 16:34:35
        
        I do (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Jan 22, 17:10:22
        
        ok (n/m) (General Chat) - duke of york, Jan 22, 17:25:59
        
        I’m sure his appearance on QT was deliberate (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jan 22, 17:23:28
        
        yeah, I'd bet that he'll soon be a right-wing talking head invited to spout his uninformed (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Jan 22, 17:27:43
        
        Ok (n/m) (General Chat) - yellowman, Jan 22, 16:37:47
        
        But surely she bought colour into the equation. (General Chat) - Men without hats, Jan 22, 15:19:27
        
        The most predictable post of the day... (n/m) (General Chat) - avenging canary, Jan 22, 15:22:19
        
        White powder? (n/m) (General Chat) - duke of york, Jan 22, 15:21:57
    - "may" just not be seeing it; correct (for whatever reason) (n/m) (General Chat) - paulg, Jan 22, 14:57:09
- I have met her a couple of times and have always been quite impressed (n/m) (General Chat) - revsimon, Jan 22, 14:35:06
- Her or Starmer would have given Boris more of a fight (General Chat) - Yurik Hunt, Jan 22, 14:00:06
- I'd rather have Marcus Tandy (n/m) (General Chat) - Huge Small, Jan 22, 13:57:44
  - I’d rather have Andy Pandy (n/m) (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Jan 22, 14:44:08

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