I entirely agree that Labour can only blame themselves

but, aside from their equivocation on Brexit, I'm not sure policies were the issue.

Bottom line, Corbyn, McDonnell and the divisive arrogance of Momentum did for them.

Repackage a social justice agenda, smoothing some of the nationalisation edges, with a younger more empathetic, less toxic Leadership and the result is closer.

They won't do that of course - and a Con Gov until at least 2029 is far more likely than not.

Posted By: norway on December 13th 2019 at 15:33:50

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A wise man once said "People get the Leaders they deserve"...... (General Chat) - admckechnie, Dec 13, 12:29:54
- 🤭 (n/m) (General Chat) - helvegtheowl, Dec 13, 17:58:16
- No it won't very little will change. (General Chat) - Men without hats, Dec 13, 17:12:09
  - One word (General Chat) - Bobthebuilder, Dec 13, 17:34:08
- or we dodged a bullet (General Chat) - ghostof barry butler, Dec 13, 12:50:21
- momentum deserve corbyn? (n/m) (General Chat) - fond, Dec 13, 12:48:30
- NHS under the Tories (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Dec 13, 12:47:55
  - But they were voted in (General Chat) - Old Git, Dec 13, 12:53:55
    - Wow. Only one whining child here. (n/m) (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Dec 13, 14:20:38
    - And it’s people like you who vote in Tories that ruin the NHS 👏🏼 (n/m) (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Dec 13, 13:52:18
      - Labour only have themselves to blame (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Dec 13, 14:46:52
        
        I entirely agree that Labour can only blame themselves (General Chat) - norway, Dec 13, 15:33:50
        
        I agree with that (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Dec 13, 15:57:30
        
        And all of that is *entirely* a sales job. (General Chat) - norway, Dec 13, 16:01:36
        
        Short term-ism dominates (n/m) (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Dec 13, 16:11:17
        
        Sadly yes. (n/m) (General Chat) - norway, Dec 13, 16:18:47
        
        And I've just seen this... (General Chat) - norway, Dec 13, 15:52:26
        
        Labour lost in their heartlands due to Brexit stance (n/m) (General Chat) - Larry Hagman, Dec 13, 18:31:39
        
        You can't just talk polls like this away. (General Chat) - norway, Dec 13, 18:37:10
      - for god's sake man (n/m) (General Chat) - paulg, Dec 13, 14:08:01
    - I didn’t hardly even post yesterday when TOMBS flounced (n/m) (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Dec 13, 13:50:27
    - But with their minority vote share (General Chat) - SCC 28, Dec 13, 13:30:11
      - Yes,yes you were right....again... (General Chat) - yellowman, Dec 13, 13:50:59
      - And you’re another one who’s cost us Tombs (General Chat) - Old Git, Dec 13, 13:35:07
        
        Lol (n/m) (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Dec 13, 14:39:18
        
        Ha you’re one of the biggest trolls on here (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Dec 13, 13:57:19
        
        Tbf, Tombs was pretty fucking tedious himself (n/m) (General Chat) - Bare_Buttocks, Dec 13, 13:45:32
        
        Chill.....deep breaths......we have the peoples parliament now! (General Chat) - admckechnie, Dec 13, 13:40:19
        
        Who voted in the Tories who are failing the NHS. (n/m) (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Dec 13, 13:51:09
        
        😱 (n/m) (General Chat) - yellowman, Dec 13, 13:52:35

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