it depends dunt it
(a) If we go to the r27 and ask for a delay, but Spain refuses because they are being arsey about Gib, then we can probably do what we want and just cry foul at Spain
(b) if we go to the r27 and ask for a delay because, quite frankly, we don't know what we are doing and we just want more time, and the r27 say 'no, you've had 2 years to think about it, sorry' then I think we are in dicey territory if we revoke then re-serve once we've worked out what our plan is. And whatever the legal status is, the r27 are not going to be pre-disposed to giving us any sort of beneficial deal.
(c) If we go to the r27 and ask for a small delay because we think it is only fair to ask the public for a final decision on the withdrawal agreement/remain/no deal and the r27 say 'no, f**k off, you've had long enough' then I 'think' we are ok because, as you suggest, we have a legitimate reason to need more time and the r27 themselves would hardly be acting in good faith.
The danger territory is (b) which seems to be the territory we are in now. Particularly as (if we ask them) I think r27 maybe offers us a further 12+ months in that scenario anyway, so we would probably have an adequate alternative to revoking.
I think you can only revoke (and tbf the court decision may clarify this further but I have only skimmed bits of it) if you have taken a firm decision to remain on at least a medium term basis, rather than deciding that you want to stay for as long as it takes you to have another referendum/GE/leadership challenge. The Art 50 mechanism caters for temporary extensions by agreement.
Posted By: CWC on December 10th 2018 at 14:39:14
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- May chickens out - Brexit vote postponed (n/m) (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Dec 10, 12:09:53
- Better than “May tits out” I suppose (n/m) (General Chat) - Old Git, Dec 10, 15:32:21
- Not sure I want to see that........ (General Chat) - usacanary, Dec 10, 18:25:55
- In protest there should be a nationwide Booooooooooooooo-in at 16:50 this coming Saturday. (General Chat) - Dracula, Dec 10, 13:51:31
- What a clusterfuck (General Chat) - Timmy_Goat, Dec 10, 13:43:49
- *brexiteer (n/m) (General Chat) - Timmy_Goat, Dec 10, 13:44:14
- Will be interesting to hear what the statements say this afternoon (General Chat) - Jim, Dec 10, 12:33:26
- she's getting very desperate from the sounds of it (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Dec 10, 15:55:23
- Revoke it and then trigger it again an hour later. Extension obtained. Simple. (n/m) (General Chat) - paulg, Dec 10, 13:36:57
- No (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Dec 10, 12:56:35
- You could revoke it if Parliament voted to revoke it whether to stay in or to (General Chat) - Jim, Dec 10, 13:50:19
- becuse in that example (General Chat) - CWC, Dec 10, 13:54:02
- So you are saying that if the EU27 refused an extension and we revoked it we could not (General Chat) - Jim, Dec 10, 14:05:13
- it depends dunt it (General Chat) - CWC, Dec 10, 14:39:14
- Bloody hell (General Chat) - Old Git, Dec 10, 15:22:01
- I do not like the lazy arsed assumption that there are only two sides involved (General Chat) - Tombs, Dec 10, 17:22:12
- Bloody hell (General Chat) - Old Git, Dec 10, 15:22:01
- Revoke A50 means we stay in the EU exactly as we are now (General Chat) - Dunney, Dec 10, 14:30:17
- and join other groups within the EU in a concerted bid to reform it (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Dec 10, 14:40:44
- it depends dunt it (General Chat) - CWC, Dec 10, 14:39:14
- So you are saying that if the EU27 refused an extension and we revoked it we could not (General Chat) - Jim, Dec 10, 14:05:13
- becuse in that example (General Chat) - CWC, Dec 10, 13:54:02
- ah, as per CWC below. (n/m) (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Dec 10, 12:57:09
- You could revoke it if Parliament voted to revoke it whether to stay in or to (General Chat) - Jim, Dec 10, 13:50:19
- If we revoke we stay in (General Chat) - CWC, Dec 10, 12:55:21
- just as a point of principle, how do you have a guarrantee that can be broken at anytime? (n/m) (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Dec 10, 13:24:33
- it wouldn't be a guarantee (General Chat) - CWC, Dec 10, 13:32:06
- "an open admission that No Deal was always going to be inevitable." (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Dec 10, 13:36:39
- it wouldn't be a guarantee (General Chat) - CWC, Dec 10, 13:32:06
- just as a point of principle, how do you have a guarrantee that can be broken at anytime? (n/m) (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Dec 10, 13:24:33
- strong and stable... (n/m) (General Chat) - CWC, Dec 10, 12:16:42
- Just cancel this whole scam. Simple. (n/m) (General Chat) - Dunney, Dec 10, 12:13:53
- Absolutely stay in the EU and join the single currency. (General Chat) - MORDENCANARY, Dec 10, 13:54:15
- Better than “May tits out” I suppose (n/m) (General Chat) - Old Git, Dec 10, 15:32:21
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