It takes the expense out of the income statement

But the cash obligation is still there.

The cash flow statement is actually the one that gives the most useful info as it shows what we’re really paying out and what’s actually coming in.

All that will happen for accounting purposes this year is we will pay Naismith and his wages will be used to reduce the liability on the balance sheet in respect of the onerous contract and won’t go through the income statement. The cash will still leave the door.

Cash flow is what matters when it comes down to it. The income statement doesn’t tell that story. Plenty of profitable business for accounting purposes go down the pan because of cash flow.

Posted By: SimonOTBC on October 24th 2018 at 12:19:07

Message Thread

Any accounts experts out there. What does this mean: (NCFC) - Jim, Oct 24, 11:32:45
- Jim is no longer concerned (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Oct 24, 12:21:56
  - I am still concerned about our ability to compete long term but we are where we are (n/m) (NCFC) - Jim, Oct 24, 12:27:40
- To anyone reviewing the accounts, I wouldn’t get too excited about the detail such as this (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Oct 24, 12:16:15
  - I concur... cash is the ligeblood of any business (n/m) (NCFC) - Worthing Yellow, Oct 24, 12:57:45
    - Lifeblood ffs (n/m) (NCFC) - Worthing Yellow, Oct 24, 12:57:56
      - I’ll let you off after your late night! (n/m) (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Oct 24, 12:58:31
- Olive (n/m) (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Oct 24, 12:00:26
- i think it still indicated we have tough times ahead (NCFC) - earlydoors, Oct 24, 11:54:13
  - If I read it right though we are still owed £42m for players (NCFC) - Jim, Oct 24, 12:01:07
    - Correct (NCFC) - mr carra, Oct 24, 12:15:53
- What it means: (NCFC) - mr carra, Oct 24, 11:47:32
  - Ok so do we think then this is basically Naismith, Jarvis and Martin and that (NCFC) - Jim, Oct 24, 12:02:30
    - Yes (NCFC) - mr carra, Oct 24, 12:10:22
      - Thanks - thats what i was thinking which is posiitve because unless i am (NCFC) - Jim, Oct 24, 12:16:31
        
        Reduced the accounting expense (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Oct 24, 12:19:59
        
        For completeness, part of the £12m is non cash anyway though (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Oct 24, 12:20:36
    - Other players I think because those guys would just depreciate normally, which would (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Oct 24, 12:09:38
      - I doubt it’s oliveira and husband (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Oct 24, 12:13:20
        
        Ah, am I correct in thinking that my incorrect thinking is because we are talking about (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Oct 24, 12:16:40
        
        Yes that’s right (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Oct 24, 12:24:58
    - It’s partly the write off of the value of transfer fees paid (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Oct 24, 12:08:40
      - Thats what i'm getting at because doing the turnoever/wages figures its quite important (NCFC) - Jim, Oct 24, 12:14:58
        
        Yep (NCFC) - mr carra, Oct 24, 12:19:38
        
        or want to buy anyone new (n/m) (NCFC) - CWC, Oct 24, 12:36:09
        
        well presumably the current accounts include purchases of players... (NCFC) - mr carra, Oct 24, 12:53:07
        
        It takes the expense out of the income statement (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Oct 24, 12:19:07
        
        I get that but you would assume that of the £42m to come in from player sales (NCFC) - Jim, Oct 24, 12:24:46
        
        I haven’t looked at the accounts (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Oct 24, 12:26:09
        
        According to the accounts... (NCFC) - mr carra, Oct 24, 12:30:14
  - Switching CAPEX to OPEX then? (n/m) (NCFC) - Bungle, Oct 24, 11:49:51
    - It’s matching the p&l expense with the consumption of the asset (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Oct 24, 11:58:54
    - Effectively, yes. (n/m) (NCFC) - mr carra, Oct 24, 11:53:24
- Jarvis maybe? (n/m) (NCFC) - Bungle, Oct 24, 11:40:36
  - Its a big sum though. Even if Jarvis is on £40K a week that £2m for his final year (n/m) (NCFC) - Jim, Oct 24, 11:41:50
- Naismith? (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Oct 24, 11:38:30
  - Yes (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Oct 24, 11:42:10
  - I assumed it must include Jarvis. Is Nelson registered? Surely he is. (n/m) (NCFC) - Jim, Oct 24, 11:40:10

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