Did you listen to R4 PM? There was an interview with one of the women - voiced over becaus

she wanted to remain anonymous. It was very enlightening. The girls were made aware of what the event could be like - and they must have had some idea in any case, being given tight, short black dresses, and black knickers. Some were looking forward to it, with the extra-curricular earning opportunities. She also said that most of the men were "sweet", talking about their wives and families and jobs. It's not really white-slavery or sex-trafficking.

Make no mistake - the men who molested these women are reptiles. I can imagine the type. And the whole idea of a men-only evening is weird (as is a women-only evening to me, a man). But, for f**k's sake, keep some perspective and avoid hysteria. Those men were trapped (if we take the reports as reliable evidence, and there don't seem to be many disputing it) and they deserved it. I would like to see their names revealed, and it would also mean that those who behaved correctly aren't unfairly embarrassed.

Posted By: Higher Wrather on January 24th 2018 at 23:05:11

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This Presidents Club stuff sounds pretty tawdry. (General Chat) - avenging canary, Jan 24, 21:08:45
- Bit naive to think it's never gone on before though surely? (General Chat) - Men without hats, Jan 24, 21:42:53
  - IT'S ALWAYS GONE ON. THAT'S THE POINT. (General Chat) - Bravo win or die, Jan 24, 22:07:09
    - It's not something limited to men is it? Room of women with topless men serving (General Chat) - wolfio, Jan 24, 22:58:33
      - You're comparing two different things though. (General Chat) - Bravo win or die, Jan 24, 23:27:07
    - Incredible that this needs to be said. (n/m) (General Chat) - norway, Jan 24, 22:51:03
    - Potd (n/m) (General Chat) - CWC, Jan 24, 22:11:09
  - ROLF. Oh maaaate... (n/m) (General Chat) - norway, Jan 24, 21:44:33
    - Every so often, true colours. (n/m) (General Chat) - avenging canary, Jan 24, 21:50:29
      - I think he is genuinely confusing 'Presidents Club' with Trump. (n/m) (General Chat) - norway, Jan 24, 22:03:29
        
        all too eager to defend the po' republicans against attacks from vicious marxists (n/m) (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Jan 24, 22:33:21
        
        Blimey... (n/m) (General Chat) - avenging canary, Jan 24, 22:20:31
        
        Yep tbf he does seem quite thick (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jan 24, 22:06:34
- £2m raised for charity (n/m) (General Chat) - lurd, Jan 24, 21:25:55
  - That's really not a clever response. (n/m) (General Chat) - norway, Jan 24, 21:45:18
    - Answering the question tbf (n/m) (General Chat) - lurd, Jan 24, 22:07:35
      - I wasn’t condoning it! Just that’s what they were probably thinking. (General Chat) - lurd, Jan 24, 22:09:55
        
        Ok, fair enough. (n/m) (General Chat) - norway, Jan 24, 22:50:02
        
        I read your comment as being neutral on the underlying issue (n/m) (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Jan 24, 22:35:27
  - I don't know what you're trying to say by that. Are you justifying it? (General Chat) - Bravo win or die, Jan 24, 21:37:46
    - no-one was forced to do anything - they were recruited by an agency (run by a woman) and (General Chat) - Higher Wrather, Jan 24, 22:38:11
      - change 'forced' to 'exploited' if it makes it easier to understand bwod's point (General Chat) - CWC, Jan 24, 22:56:14
      - Wow... (n/m) (General Chat) - avenging canary, Jan 24, 22:49:51
      - No, no, no. (General Chat) - norway, Jan 24, 22:49:12
        
        Did you listen to R4 PM? There was an interview with one of the women - voiced over becaus (General Chat) - Higher Wrather, Jan 24, 23:05:11
        
        None of what you say makes the reported behaviour ok (General Chat) - norway, Jan 24, 23:12:09
        
        I think this event in isolation isn’t the point (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Jan 24, 23:18:02
        
        *thus it is* (n/m) (General Chat) - norway, Jan 24, 22:53:06
    - I find the whole thing bizarre (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Jan 24, 22:36:51
    - Pretty hard to justify (General Chat) - The Mascara Creosote, Jan 24, 21:50:02
  - Ah, that's ok then... (n/m) (General Chat) - avenging canary, Jan 24, 21:37:45
  - A lot been handed back tbf (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jan 24, 21:34:32
    - Truly a case of 'don't know where it's been' I'd suggest. (n/m) (General Chat) - DrDublin, Jan 24, 21:38:23
- a spectacular list of attendees (General Chat) - Henclrikus, Jan 24, 21:17:08

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