I think Brexit will be more shambolic. There's no clear majority in Parliament for

a hard Brexit, for soft Brexit or for no Brexit, taking into account the likely Labour opportunism when the vote comes. I agree that there should be a meaningful vote, but it's solid masonry on top of a quicksand.

Posted By: Higher Wrather on December 13th 2017 at 20:01:40

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May should have seen that coming, Parliament to get a meaningful votre. (n/m) (General Chat) - DrDublin, Dec 13, 19:16:29
- How important would the vote have to be (General Chat) - Bryan Salad Surgery, Dec 13, 21:26:12
- The weakest government in my lifetime. (General Chat) - avenging canary, Dec 13, 20:42:17
  - And all their own doing (General Chat) - Jumbo1, Dec 13, 20:52:08
- This is good (n/m) (General Chat) - Dandy Highburyman, Dec 13, 20:12:32
  - Corbyn will still make sure Brexit happens (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Dec 13, 20:35:39
    - mmmm, maybe not. When he could force an election, the temptation could be too great. (General Chat) - Higher Wrather, Dec 13, 21:01:13
      - he couldn't force an election, the tories' self-preservation would kick in (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Dec 13, 22:07:07
    - Oh yes, don't doubt that, but he'll have to be a bit more careful now... (General Chat) - Dandy Highburyman, Dec 13, 20:45:32
- Gets more and more shambolic (n/m) (General Chat) - Higher Wrather, Dec 13, 19:43:29
  - Nothing shambolic about parliamentary sovereignty imo (General Chat) - SCC 28, Dec 13, 19:50:14
    - I think Brexit will be more shambolic. There's no clear majority in Parliament for (General Chat) - Higher Wrather, Dec 13, 20:01:40
    - Shambolic for May et al though (General Chat) - Jacksons_Twelfth, Dec 13, 19:53:16
      - Yep 😀 (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Dec 13, 19:54:40
- this means 'no deal' is far more likely. (General Chat) - shoddy, Dec 13, 19:37:43
  - No deal now means soft brexit cos the UK has now agreed with the EU that (General Chat) - Larry Hagman, Dec 13, 20:55:22
    - Davis is too thick to know what he has agreed to (General Chat) - CWC, Dec 13, 22:16:07
  - LOL (General Chat) - SCC 28, Dec 13, 19:49:00
  - Other way around isn't it? (General Chat) - Jim, Dec 13, 19:48:08
    - my point is that if it is too soft, the labour front bench wont like it. (General Chat) - shoddy, Dec 13, 20:03:02
- Parliament taking back control lovely stuff (General Chat) - SCC 28, Dec 13, 19:34:00
- I once had what I thought was a meaningful votre, bled me dry in the end. (n/m) (General Chat) - tudders, Dec 13, 19:19:13
  - Close one, quatre. (n/m) (General Chat) - DrDublin, Dec 13, 19:24:23
- *vote (n/m) (General Chat) - DrDublin, Dec 13, 19:16:42
  - Even as a 'Brexiteer', I don't see this as a bad thing. (General Chat) - Jacksons_Twelfth, Dec 13, 19:33:43
    - The issue though of course is what happens if parliament turns it down (General Chat) - Jim, Dec 13, 19:49:31
      - The Govt would surely fall. Final vote will now be seen as a vote of confidence. (General Chat) - Dracula, Dec 13, 19:54:55
        
        I'd tend to agree with that (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Dec 13, 20:27:01
      - Yes, as Shoddy says it does make no deal more likely. (General Chat) - Jacksons_Twelfth, Dec 13, 19:52:01

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