success is the achievement of something desired, planned or attempted

Now i would say that top flight survival was something desired, planned and attempted, therefore top flight survival was success.

Forget trying to use the definition of a word to try and win an argument. Would top flight survival be failure to you.

Posted By: earlydoors on February 15th 2006 at 16:15:44

Message Thread

Realistically.......... (NCFC) - chuftncfc, Feb 15, 15:08:17
- yes! (NCFC) - mazing_marie89, Feb 15, 15:22:18
  - they made the playoff final both years (NCFC) - mr carra, Feb 15, 15:35:46
    - ok (NCFC) - mazing_marie89, Feb 15, 15:39:20
      - Do what?! (NCFC) - Linky, Feb 15, 19:58:31
  - west ham made the playoff final seasons running (n/m) (NCFC) - earlydoors, Feb 15, 15:30:32
    - You would hope a club of their size would. (n/m) (NCFC) - Arganth, Feb 15, 15:37:56
  - West Ham were top 8 most of the time weren't they? (NCFC) - duke of york, Feb 15, 15:26:54
  - They were always flirting with the playoffs... (NCFC) - Brom, Feb 15, 15:26:38
    - ... (NCFC) - mazing_marie89, Feb 15, 15:31:37
- yes (NCFC) - whinging c_nt police, Feb 15, 15:11:03
- worthy at the helm - err NO (n/m) (NCFC) - jonah3000, Feb 15, 15:10:20
  - er, why? (n/m) (NCFC) - chuftncfc, Feb 15, 15:10:44
    - cos he's crap! (n/m) (NCFC) - jonah3000, Feb 15, 15:12:03
      - What do you do for a living ? (n/m) (NCFC) - Arganth, Feb 15, 15:15:39
      - yeah good one... (NCFC) - whinging c_nt police, Feb 15, 15:15:23
        
        people have very short memories (NCFC) - giant_Ullaa, Feb 15, 15:27:41
        
        Avoiding relegation once does not make you an established Premier League side (n/m) (NCFC) - Brom, Feb 15, 15:18:17
        
        It goes a further way to that aim than not avoiding relegation. (n/m) (NCFC) - Arganth, Feb 15, 15:22:14
        
        getting spanked 6-0 is hardly a whisker away from survival eva (n/m) (NCFC) - otbc2006, Feb 15, 15:20:15
        
        How many poor season should a manager be allowed before action is taken (n/m) (NCFC) - earlydoors, Feb 15, 15:17:31
        
        Was last year really that poor a season ? (NCFC) - Arganth, Feb 15, 15:20:13
        
        Results wise, probably not that bad. (NCFC) - Arizona Bay, Feb 15, 15:51:11
        
        It's a results driven game though. (n/m) (NCFC) - Arganth, Feb 15, 15:59:14
        
        Well, that's a whole other argument. (NCFC) - Arizona Bay, Feb 15, 16:08:03
        
        Compared to Wigan and West Ham's...yes (NCFC) - duke of york, Feb 15, 15:28:10
        
        As below, Wigan and WHam have cash, Sunderland don't. (NCFC) - Arganth, Feb 15, 15:30:25
        
        It was that attitude that got us relegated (n/m) (NCFC) - Brandonio, Feb 15, 15:26:46
        
        really (NCFC) - mazing_marie89, Feb 15, 15:33:47
        
        the attitude of the club last season was a disgrace... (NCFC) - Brandonio, Feb 15, 15:36:15
        
        spot on, pardew b4 arsenal away "we are here to win" (NCFC) - otbc2006, Feb 15, 15:41:13
        
        last season wasnt a success. This season isnt a success. (NCFC) - earlydoors, Feb 15, 15:22:24
        
        er, yeah (NCFC) - mazing_marie89, Feb 15, 15:25:01
        
        last season was successful was it? (n/m) (NCFC) - earlydoors, Feb 15, 15:28:42
        
        In that case, how many seasons of no success have the club had since 1902 ? (NCFC) - Arganth, Feb 15, 15:23:55
        
        How many managers would be allowed to underperform for so long (NCFC) - earlydoors, Feb 15, 15:26:38
        
        Walker did, Stringer did, Brown did, Bond did, Saunders did. (NCFC) - Arganth, Feb 15, 15:29:20
        
        No they didnt. tell me which 2 seasons in a row that they underperformed. (n/m) (NCFC) - earlydoors, Feb 15, 15:31:34
        
        Can't be arsed. Tell me, apart from the obvious, when they did. (n/m) (NCFC) - Arganth, Feb 15, 15:33:42
        
        I knew I had you there. candy from a baby and all that (n/m) (NCFC) - earlydoors, Feb 15, 15:36:08
        
        Well no, I have other more interesting and pressing things to do. (NCFC) - Arganth, Feb 15, 15:39:09
        
        OK ... (NCFC) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Feb 15, 15:41:24
        
        1987 - 2001 inclusive, apart from 92-93 though. (n/m) (NCFC) - Arganth, Feb 15, 15:41:08
        
        Got you here again then. You are making it way too easy. (NCFC) - earlydoors, Feb 15, 15:46:54
        
        What did we win those years ? Nothing. (n/m) (NCFC) - Arganth, Feb 15, 16:01:20
        
        So being an established top flight club would be failure to you then (NCFC) - earlydoors, Feb 15, 16:04:41
        
        It wasn't success. So, taking it to it's crudest terms, yes. (n/m) (NCFC) - Arganth, Feb 15, 16:11:37
        
        success is the achievement of something desired, planned or attempted (NCFC) - earlydoors, Feb 15, 16:15:44
        
        west ham / wigan seem to b competing pretty well this season (NCFC) - otbc2006, Feb 15, 15:21:14
        
        No. A lot of cash, innit. (n/m) (NCFC) - Arganth, Feb 15, 15:21:41
        
        How much have wigan spent this year. I bets its around the same as we did (n/m) (NCFC) - earlydoors, Feb 15, 15:23:03
        
        Find out. Then take off the Ashton fee from what we spent. (NCFC) - Arganth, Feb 15, 15:25:11
        
        ONE (n/m) (NCFC) - whinging c_nt police, Feb 15, 15:19:05
        
        and if he doesnt turn it around the next year (NCFC) - whinging c_nt police, Feb 15, 15:20:35
        
        Fully agree. (n/m) (NCFC) - Arganth, Feb 15, 15:21:04
        
        wow (NCFC) - whinging c_nt police, Feb 15, 15:25:17
      - but the board won't sack him, so realistically......... (n/m) (NCFC) - chuftncfc, Feb 15, 15:14:32

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