Got you here again then. You are making it way too easy.

How can 87-94 be poor when we were a top flight team. I mean norwich are only a small club and our position now should be the norm.

For us to be established as a top flight team was never an underachievement. Then after we were relegated we sacked our managers when they didnt succeed.

The thing is that no manager has been allowed to get away with successive seasons of underachievement and you well know it.

Posted By: earlydoors on February 15th 2006 at 15:46:54

Message Thread

Realistically.......... (NCFC) - chuftncfc, Feb 15, 15:08:17
- yes! (NCFC) - mazing_marie89, Feb 15, 15:22:18
  - they made the playoff final both years (NCFC) - mr carra, Feb 15, 15:35:46
    - ok (NCFC) - mazing_marie89, Feb 15, 15:39:20
      - Do what?! (NCFC) - Linky, Feb 15, 19:58:31
  - west ham made the playoff final seasons running (n/m) (NCFC) - earlydoors, Feb 15, 15:30:32
    - You would hope a club of their size would. (n/m) (NCFC) - Arganth, Feb 15, 15:37:56
  - West Ham were top 8 most of the time weren't they? (NCFC) - duke of york, Feb 15, 15:26:54
  - They were always flirting with the playoffs... (NCFC) - Brom, Feb 15, 15:26:38
    - ... (NCFC) - mazing_marie89, Feb 15, 15:31:37
- yes (NCFC) - whinging c_nt police, Feb 15, 15:11:03
- worthy at the helm - err NO (n/m) (NCFC) - jonah3000, Feb 15, 15:10:20
  - er, why? (n/m) (NCFC) - chuftncfc, Feb 15, 15:10:44
    - cos he's crap! (n/m) (NCFC) - jonah3000, Feb 15, 15:12:03
      - What do you do for a living ? (n/m) (NCFC) - Arganth, Feb 15, 15:15:39
      - yeah good one... (NCFC) - whinging c_nt police, Feb 15, 15:15:23
        
        people have very short memories (NCFC) - giant_Ullaa, Feb 15, 15:27:41
        
        Avoiding relegation once does not make you an established Premier League side (n/m) (NCFC) - Brom, Feb 15, 15:18:17
        
        It goes a further way to that aim than not avoiding relegation. (n/m) (NCFC) - Arganth, Feb 15, 15:22:14
        
        getting spanked 6-0 is hardly a whisker away from survival eva (n/m) (NCFC) - otbc2006, Feb 15, 15:20:15
        
        How many poor season should a manager be allowed before action is taken (n/m) (NCFC) - earlydoors, Feb 15, 15:17:31
        
        Was last year really that poor a season ? (NCFC) - Arganth, Feb 15, 15:20:13
        
        Results wise, probably not that bad. (NCFC) - Arizona Bay, Feb 15, 15:51:11
        
        It's a results driven game though. (n/m) (NCFC) - Arganth, Feb 15, 15:59:14
        
        Well, that's a whole other argument. (NCFC) - Arizona Bay, Feb 15, 16:08:03
        
        Compared to Wigan and West Ham's...yes (NCFC) - duke of york, Feb 15, 15:28:10
        
        As below, Wigan and WHam have cash, Sunderland don't. (NCFC) - Arganth, Feb 15, 15:30:25
        
        It was that attitude that got us relegated (n/m) (NCFC) - Brandonio, Feb 15, 15:26:46
        
        really (NCFC) - mazing_marie89, Feb 15, 15:33:47
        
        the attitude of the club last season was a disgrace... (NCFC) - Brandonio, Feb 15, 15:36:15
        
        spot on, pardew b4 arsenal away "we are here to win" (NCFC) - otbc2006, Feb 15, 15:41:13
        
        last season wasnt a success. This season isnt a success. (NCFC) - earlydoors, Feb 15, 15:22:24
        
        er, yeah (NCFC) - mazing_marie89, Feb 15, 15:25:01
        
        last season was successful was it? (n/m) (NCFC) - earlydoors, Feb 15, 15:28:42
        
        In that case, how many seasons of no success have the club had since 1902 ? (NCFC) - Arganth, Feb 15, 15:23:55
        
        How many managers would be allowed to underperform for so long (NCFC) - earlydoors, Feb 15, 15:26:38
        
        Walker did, Stringer did, Brown did, Bond did, Saunders did. (NCFC) - Arganth, Feb 15, 15:29:20
        
        No they didnt. tell me which 2 seasons in a row that they underperformed. (n/m) (NCFC) - earlydoors, Feb 15, 15:31:34
        
        Can't be arsed. Tell me, apart from the obvious, when they did. (n/m) (NCFC) - Arganth, Feb 15, 15:33:42
        
        I knew I had you there. candy from a baby and all that (n/m) (NCFC) - earlydoors, Feb 15, 15:36:08
        
        Well no, I have other more interesting and pressing things to do. (NCFC) - Arganth, Feb 15, 15:39:09
        
        OK ... (NCFC) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Feb 15, 15:41:24
        
        1987 - 2001 inclusive, apart from 92-93 though. (n/m) (NCFC) - Arganth, Feb 15, 15:41:08
        
        Got you here again then. You are making it way too easy. (NCFC) - earlydoors, Feb 15, 15:46:54
        
        What did we win those years ? Nothing. (n/m) (NCFC) - Arganth, Feb 15, 16:01:20
        
        So being an established top flight club would be failure to you then (NCFC) - earlydoors, Feb 15, 16:04:41
        
        It wasn't success. So, taking it to it's crudest terms, yes. (n/m) (NCFC) - Arganth, Feb 15, 16:11:37
        
        success is the achievement of something desired, planned or attempted (NCFC) - earlydoors, Feb 15, 16:15:44
        
        west ham / wigan seem to b competing pretty well this season (NCFC) - otbc2006, Feb 15, 15:21:14
        
        No. A lot of cash, innit. (n/m) (NCFC) - Arganth, Feb 15, 15:21:41
        
        How much have wigan spent this year. I bets its around the same as we did (n/m) (NCFC) - earlydoors, Feb 15, 15:23:03
        
        Find out. Then take off the Ashton fee from what we spent. (NCFC) - Arganth, Feb 15, 15:25:11
        
        ONE (n/m) (NCFC) - whinging c_nt police, Feb 15, 15:19:05
        
        and if he doesnt turn it around the next year (NCFC) - whinging c_nt police, Feb 15, 15:20:35
        
        Fully agree. (n/m) (NCFC) - Arganth, Feb 15, 15:21:04
        
        wow (NCFC) - whinging c_nt police, Feb 15, 15:25:17
      - but the board won't sack him, so realistically......... (n/m) (NCFC) - chuftncfc, Feb 15, 15:14:32

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