We are grinding our results without playing well I will give him that

The point is though that his substitutions to "protect" our lead are not working, teams are eroding our lead or in the case of last night overturning it.

I appreciate that the "points" gained is only one measure and other factors can include how the pattern of play is influenced, steadying the ship etc. My personal view on that is we very, very rarely play better after substitutions than we were playing before them. Mulumbu at Portman Road (ridiculous substitution at a time we had a grip on the game) being a case in point and pretty much every time he's taken off Wes anywhere.

We have the players to beat many teams in this league without playing well or indeed whilst playing (and particularly defending) quite badly. That is no achievement for the manager. I suppose we could possibly get promoted just by virtue of beating the crap teams whilst losing the half a dozen difficult games we will have. I would obviously be pleased if we get up regardless of how we do it. I would not regard that as proof that Neil has learnt anything or is good enough to keep us up though. When he makes a pro-active change that positively influences a game or shows he has actually learnt something I will praise him, you have my word.

Posted By: Jim on September 29th 2016 at 10:30:50

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What would people generally expect the effect of substitutions to be on games (NCFC) - Jim, Sep 29, 09:51:24
- Out of interest ... (NCFC) - loz, Sep 29, 10:02:42
  - Well I can tell you that this season (NCFC) - Jim, Sep 29, 10:13:26
    - How many have we consolidated what we had? Like Forest? (n/m) (NCFC) - Azteca, Sep 29, 10:26:00
      - Exactly that doesn't suit his agenda though does it (n/m) (NCFC) - loz, Sep 29, 10:31:31
        
        Depends what you mean by consolidated? (NCFC) - Jim, Sep 29, 10:37:25
        
        Points (n/m) (NCFC) - Azteca, Sep 29, 10:38:42
        
        Points exactly this (n/m) (NCFC) - loz, Sep 29, 10:40:11
        
        As i said previously last night is the only time its costs us points (NCFC) - Jim, Sep 29, 10:46:57
        
        Yes, but how many points consolidated when subs been made? (n/m) (NCFC) - Azteca, Sep 29, 10:49:45
        
        Well since we've made subs in every game and we've got 20 points presumably (NCFC) - Jim, Sep 29, 10:54:52
        
        Doesn't sound too shabby then really. 20 secured, 3 lost. (n/m) (NCFC) - Azteca, Sep 29, 11:07:50
        
        Hardly secured. In many cases i would say jeopardised (n/m) (NCFC) - Jim, Sep 29, 11:19:39
        
        Well maybe you would, but the image you're trying to create is that (NCFC) - Azteca, Sep 29, 11:28:14
        
        No I'm just saying they rarely improve us or positively impact on the game (n/m) (NCFC) - Jim, Sep 29, 12:05:22
        
        He will ignore that just as he is choosing... (NCFC) - loz, Sep 29, 10:53:52
        
        And without the Mulumbu sub at Ipswich we probably win the game (NCFC) - Jim, Sep 29, 10:55:46
        
        Manager in some right some wrong shocker (n/m) (NCFC) - loz, Sep 29, 10:58:30
    - It's a simplistic way of looking at things though ... (NCFC) - loz, Sep 29, 10:20:16
      - We are grinding our results without playing well I will give him that (NCFC) - Jim, Sep 29, 10:30:50
        
        So much nonsense ... (NCFC) - loz, Sep 29, 10:35:54
    - Sorry that should say underwhelming not overwhelming (n/m) (NCFC) - Jim, Sep 29, 10:14:38

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