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absolutely true that it's not strictly a question of whether they want to be part of the Ukraine, but it also doesn't sound as if it's as straight forward as "again much against the wishes of the people of Crimea."

this isn't suggesting that the majority aren't now happy being part of Putin's ne Russian empire, just that, y'know, it's probably a bit more complicated than that...

Posted By: Ralf Scrampton on July 6th 2016 at 16:15:15

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So the Russian Embassy are trolling Britain now (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Jul 6, 12:33:17
- They are as entitled to troll on this as anyone else..... (General Chat) - Kirrie, Jul 6, 12:50:23
  - Put your shirt back on and get off that horse comrade Kirrie! (n/m) (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Jul 6, 14:12:09
  - Kirrie taking a pro-Russian stance? Whatever next. (n/m) (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Jul 6, 12:53:48
    - My wife is Russian, I've been there many times, I've been to Crimea.... (General Chat) - Kirrie, Jul 6, 13:02:43
      - By "returned to Russia" I think you mean militarily annexed (n/m) (General Chat) - Basil Wrathbone, Jul 6, 13:36:43
        
        didn't some Soviet leader give it to Ukraine whilst pissed? (General Chat) - CWC, Jul 6, 13:43:42
        
        Crimea had been a part of Russia for centuries until Khruschev.... (General Chat) - Kirrie, Jul 6, 14:42:51
        
        in the Ukranian referendum of 1991 a majority in the Crimea supported Ukranian independanc (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Jul 6, 16:15:15
        
        From what I've seen and heard first hand it really does seem that straightforward. (n/m) (General Chat) - Kirrie, Jul 6, 16:46:18
        
        right-oh, your anecdotal experience clearly trumps any actual election data... (n/m) (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Jul 6, 16:55:32
        
        Oh and your attachment relates to a whiole Ukraine referendum.... (General Chat) - Kirrie, Jul 6, 17:26:11
        
        Try these two...... (General Chat) - Kirrie, Jul 6, 17:30:24
        
        read the first line of the table (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Jul 6, 21:18:18
        
        Its a different referendum you dullard! Nothing to do with independence for Crimea! (n/m) (General Chat) - Kirrie, Jul 7, 09:32:34
        
        read my post again you fucknut (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Jul 8, 14:06:52
        
        Your 25 year old data from 1991 you mean? Try reading the rest of the article... (General Chat) - Kirrie, Jul 6, 17:22:09
      - Mr Putin thanks you for your support (n/m) (General Chat) - Comrade Canary, Jul 6, 13:10:50
        
        Its not unreserved, i have no doubt there was state involvment in Litvinenko's murder... (General Chat) - Kirrie, Jul 6, 13:22:43
        
        RIP Kirrie (n/m) (General Chat) - Charles21, Jul 6, 13:59:01
        
        Mr Putin is a devil cos the BBC told me. (n/m) (General Chat) - harry boulders, Jul 6, 13:13:09

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