I hope so. I think it will be a narrow remain vote and if that/this is enough of a wake up

call for the EU and enough to hasten some proper reform then that might just be the best outcome.

Hopefully our government will not just crow about the result (although Osborne will be a tw*t about it - am never voting for a tory government with him in a prominent role again) but actually realise that they (and the EU) came very close to losing this and that half the population (in fact probably well more than half as many voting in are only doing so due to perceived risks over the economy not because they want to be part of the EU) want some serious reform. The remain campaign has campaigned on the basis that Europe needs that reform so they must push for it.

Alternatively of course the EU might use it as a mandate to charge head on into further integration!

Posted By: Jim on June 21st 2016 at 12:10:15

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Not wishing to get into another Brexit debate but genuine question (General Chat) - Jim, Jun 21, 11:32:34
- Because anyone can go anywhere within a single country (General Chat) - paulg, Jun 21, 12:42:07
- the free market is about the free movement of goods, services, capital and labour (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Jun 21, 11:52:47
  - This (n/m) (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jun 21, 17:10:34
  - vmt (General Chat) - mr carra, Jun 21, 11:56:08
  - economics then (General Chat) - Tombs, Jun 21, 11:54:15
    - Yep (n/m) (General Chat) - yellowman, Jun 21, 12:25:00
    - Well to those of us living in mainland yurp, it's very much idealistic. Probably the (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Jun 21, 12:12:17
      - been to europe mate i know how it works tar, ever driv through france or itlee? (General Chat) - Tombs, Jun 21, 14:44:45
      - Lol doing not doping. Freudian slip there. (n/m) (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Jun 21, 12:12:40
    - yep, we is all economical actors - even if we got rid of money and just did bartering (n/m) (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Jun 21, 12:00:59
      - I find it a bit depressing to be honest. (n/m) (General Chat) - Jim, Jun 21, 12:03:12
        
        it's life Jim, if we didn't have money you'd be digging holes to shit in like a caveman (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Jun 21, 12:10:06
        
        ... but not as we know it. (General Chat) - Arizona Bay, Jun 21, 12:14:23
        
        Spock, not Bones. (General Chat) - Arizona Bay, Jun 21, 12:16:32
        
        exactly (n/m) (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Jun 21, 12:19:26
        
        with link... (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Jun 21, 12:29:19
        
        I could live with the former....... (n/m) (General Chat) - Jim, Jun 21, 12:11:28
    - it's a mixture of both (General Chat) - mr carra, Jun 21, 11:58:17
- Here's the official EU factsheet: (General Chat) - mr carra, Jun 21, 11:43:19
- It won't be. It will have to change. The whole EU is heading for the sort of (General Chat) - CB41, Jun 21, 11:35:32
  - indeed re direction of EU travel (General Chat) - CWC, Jun 21, 13:56:44
  - This is a very important point - This has been a massive wake up call for the EU (General Chat) - Knitted Jesus, Jun 21, 12:02:54
    - I hope so. I think it will be a narrow remain vote and if that/this is enough of a wake up (General Chat) - Jim, Jun 21, 12:10:15
- always economical (n/m) (General Chat) - Tombs, Jun 21, 11:35:02
  - Yep (n/m) (General Chat) - yellowman, Jun 21, 12:15:35

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