I like this, from Alan Johnson

Is it a just cause, is the proposed action a last resort, is it proportionate, does it have a reasonable prospect of success, does it have broad regional support, does it have a clear legal base. I think it meets all of those criteria.

I find this decision as difficult as anyone to make, I wish I had frankly the self-righteous certitude of the finger-jabbing representatives of our new and kinder type of politics, who will no doubt soon be contacting those of us who support this motion tonight, but I believe that Isil, Daesh, has to be confronted and destroyed if we are to properly defend our country and our way of life and I believe that this motion provides the best way to achieve this objective.

Posted By: paulg on December 2nd 2015 at 17:07:58

Message Thread

No wroth poll yet... (NCFC) - hoolahan, Dec 2, 15:14:38
- Yes but with ground support too and rebuilding etc (n/m) (NCFC) - Tony Martin, Dec 2, 20:55:29
- Solution or things learnt from Afghanistan? It's too expenisive to fight a war, so just (NCFC) - pants, Dec 2, 17:26:19
  - In your opinion (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Dec 2, 18:11:04
- I like this, from Alan Johnson (NCFC) - paulg, Dec 2, 17:07:58
  - Yes, because you agree in the action... (NCFC) - Dandy Highburyman, Dec 2, 17:15:21
    - on balance, yes I do agree with the action (NCFC) - paulg, Dec 2, 17:20:52
      - There's so much spin at the moment it's difficult to know where blame starts and ends... (NCFC) - Dandy Highburyman, Dec 2, 17:25:04
- No (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Dec 2, 16:23:35
- Until they actually formulate a proper plan from pre to post bombing... (NCFC) - Dandy Highburyman, Dec 2, 16:01:25
- Yes (NCFC) - CWC, Dec 2, 15:57:38
- Yes (n/m) (NCFC) - Ken Breadstick, Dec 2, 15:51:55
- we're already bombing them ..... (NCFC) - paulg, Dec 2, 15:38:23
- no, looks like they're dug in anyway (NCFC) - Worzel Scrimmage, Dec 2, 15:35:14
  - Bingoooo, that's it. Just like the Yanks in post war Iraque. (n/m) (NCFC) - CB41, Dec 2, 16:13:25
- Yes (NCFC) - Jumbo1, Dec 2, 15:33:42
- Did you see the Roma Ultra's offered ISIS a straightner, 50 vs 50 ? (n/m) (NCFC) - MIKEWALKER, Dec 2, 15:27:58
  - 50 overs? They offered to play ISIS at cricket? (n/m) (NCFC) - Ken Breadstick, Dec 2, 15:51:34
    - Ah, a gentlemanly way to resolve things. (n/m) (NCFC) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Dec 2, 17:36:58
    - Hows that prediction league looking, pal? (n/m) (NCFC) - MIKEWALKER, Dec 2, 15:53:35
      - Did you do your predict for the second season? (n/m) (NCFC) - Ken Breadstick, Dec 2, 16:24:16
      - Awaiting the update after the Arsenal game. (NCFC) - Graham Nine, Dec 2, 16:22:57
  - What does that mean please? (n/m) (NCFC) - CB41, Dec 2, 15:29:48
    - Apologies (NCFC) - MIKEWALKER, Dec 2, 15:46:07
      - What does 50 v 50 mean? (n/m) (NCFC) - CB41, Dec 2, 16:11:19
      - Why did they write it in Italian then ? (n/m) (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Dec 2, 15:48:35
        
        Because Italian is the international language of the ultra. (n/m) (NCFC) - MIKEWALKER, Dec 2, 15:51:46
- No.. (n/m) (NCFC) - colincanary, Dec 2, 15:26:18
- No (n/m) (NCFC) - South_West_Canary, Dec 2, 15:25:42
- It's a no from me too... (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Dec 2, 15:21:27
  - but since that's obviously not possible (NCFC) - paulg, Dec 2, 15:56:07

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