I disagree. He's very cleverly encouraged low expectations

In that scenario, anything other than abject humiliation by Cameron is a "win" for millipede and a "loss" for Cameron.

Milipede is a very bright man with a genuinely impressive grasp of policy. But he can't do presentation. It's ironic that people often say they want substance over style, but then vote for e.g. Blair but not Brown (a very, very awkward man to work with but you can't deny his brilliance intellectually).

Cameron is also a very bright man and much more small-l-liberal than most of his party (who don't really trust him for a number of reasons, that being one).

Both are led by the pettifogging detail of endless wonkery and focus group feedback, not the kind of broad stroke ideology that would really ignite proper debate about the kind of country we want to live in.

But that's just me.

Posted By: Old Man on April 2nd 2015 at 23:11:58

Message Thread

Sturgeon, Would (!), and Ed did quite well. (n/m) (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, Apr 2, 22:47:40
- He really didn't. False. Game hand gestures. He (NCFC) - Jim, Apr 2, 22:59:17
  - I disagree. He's very cleverly encouraged low expectations (NCFC) - Old Man, Apr 2, 23:11:58
- Labour would win election if he was in charge. Wrong brother (n/m) (NCFC) - Hulk Rules, Apr 2, 22:48:37
  - The Civil Service used to refer to Ed as "the evil of two lessers". (NCFC) - Old Man, Apr 2, 22:51:46
    - Don't forget Cameron was fighting against constituency boundaries bent in Labour's favour (NCFC) - Old Git, Apr 2, 23:02:29
      - Should get Shirley Porter in to move the unwanted Labour voters out of marginal seats... (n/m) (NCFC) - Vivid Data Shark, Apr 2, 23:32:09
        
        Old school! (n/m) (NCFC) - woody, Apr 3, 00:27:11
      - Oh absolutely - I've always said the Lords thing was an entirely Pyrrhic Tory "victory" (NCFC) - Old Man, Apr 2, 23:07:07
        
        Well then (NCFC) - Old Git, Apr 2, 23:11:06
        
        But that's precisely how he is viewed by his party (NCFC) - Old Man, Apr 2, 23:13:54
        
        No one could rate him (NCFC) - Old Git, Apr 2, 23:18:39
        
        Ps I really enjoyed the evil of two lessers (NCFC) - Old Git, Apr 2, 23:11:41
    - Fair point tho (n/m) (NCFC) - Hulk Rules, Apr 2, 22:55:30
  - *Wasn't * (n/m) (NCFC) - Hulk Rules, Apr 2, 22:48:57

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