a bit unfair

Liverpool simply paid the price for a decade of violence by English fans (most of it by supporters of the national team, but Spurs and Man U fans were among those guilty in Euro competition). The only difference is that the Liverpool incident at Heysel (and I believe Liverpool fans had a pretty good record up to that point) ocurred in a decrepit stadium so that people actually died. That incident alone didn't cause the ban, it was a culmination of years of trouble, but it has enabled people like you to make Liverpool the scapegoats for a nation.

Posted By: mr carra on May 26th 2005 at 11:58:13

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With all this scouse back slapping lets not forget... (NCFC) - Ben, May 26, 11:22:51
- 11/10. Excellent. That's what I've been waiting for. (NCFC) - roywallerslovechild, May 26, 11:54:24
- I don't think anyone will forget it (NCFC) - SherryEnema, May 26, 11:36:18
  - Why? Liverpool have done more to damage "English football" than any other club... (NCFC) - Ben, May 26, 11:50:23
    - a bit unfair (NCFC) - mr carra, May 26, 11:58:13
    - Sorry but that is nonsense (NCFC) - SherryEnema, May 26, 11:55:49
- Doesn't "murder" require (NCFC) - CB41, May 26, 11:24:49
  - It just requires an intent to do serious harm (NCFC) - Old Git, May 26, 11:37:06
    - don't think a Liverpool fan touched a single one of thevictims (n/m) (NCFC) - mr carra, May 26, 11:39:21
      - That's not a requirement tp prove murder...... (NCFC) - Kirrie, May 26, 11:50:57
        
        wouldn't that be manslaughter? (n/m) (NCFC) - mr carra, May 26, 11:53:06
        
        Not necessarily - according to common law.... (NCFC) - Kirrie, May 26, 11:56:50
        
        OK, but in that case.. (NCFC) - mr carra, May 26, 12:01:52
        
        I'm not saying they should...... (NCFC) - Kirrie, May 26, 12:10:45
        
        and Liverpool fans would claim... (NCFC) - mr carra, May 26, 12:14:54
        
        Two wrongs don't make a right - they were all idiots! (n/m) (NCFC) - Kirrie, May 26, 12:16:52
        
        definitely agree on that! (NCFC) - mr carra, May 26, 12:21:01
      - You have a point (NCFC) - SherryEnema, May 26, 11:41:57
        
        and I suppose that the thousands of ticket-less Liverpool fans... (NCFC) - Ben, May 26, 11:53:46
        
        thwy were not the root of the problem... (NCFC) - Deadly Diego, May 26, 11:59:28
        
        One of the roots - one of the others was as Ben says? (n/m) (NCFC) - Kirrie, May 26, 11:58:40
        
        This is actually very simple - yes, they paid a significant part. (NCFC) - roywallerslovechild, May 26, 11:58:00
        
        Head. Nail. Hit. On. (n/m) (NCFC) - SherryEnema, May 26, 12:10:29
        
        the stadium structure and organisation was at the root of the problem (n/m) (NCFC) - Deadly Diego, May 26, 11:53:44
- I never knew them in the first place, so it'd be quite hard for me to forget about them. (n/m) (NCFC) - d0mj4y, May 26, 11:23:43

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