no they don't

Governments follow rules. They obey bureaucracy.

If you start letting individual civil servants/DWP case workers making decisions based on discretion, however well intentioned, you get a mess of inconsistent decisions and even more cases of bizarre hardship (or spiralling cost for the taxpayer)

From time to time the rules are going to generate cases of hardship like this, and you and me will think it's a daft situation and wonder where common sense has gone, but well run government bodies don't operate on the basis of subjective common sense, they run on the basis of fixed rules and bureaucracy.

IT's not a party political issue.

Posted By: CWC on February 26th 2015 at 19:47:59

Message Thread

Stay classy, IDS (General Chat) - thebigfeller, Feb 26, 16:51:00
- IDS is piece of dogshit (n/m) (General Chat) - colincanary, Feb 26, 19:35:04
- EU regs intut. Don't expect grauniad to say that though. (n/m) (General Chat) - Tony Martin, Feb 26, 18:37:46
- isn't that all down to EU regulations? (General Chat) - CWC, Feb 26, 18:06:11
  - It basically looks like bureaucracy (General Chat) - norway, Feb 26, 18:18:20
    - ^exactly. (n/m) (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Feb 26, 18:21:10
      - OMG (General Chat) - norway, Feb 26, 18:22:29
        
        FFS! (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Feb 26, 18:49:27
        
        I'm not a fucking champagne socialist either. (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Feb 26, 18:55:37
        
        Fished in!!!!! (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Feb 26, 19:01:03
        
        I am! (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Feb 26, 19:18:21
        
        well done, give yourself a gold star. You must be proud of yourself (n/m) (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Feb 26, 19:17:47
        
        I'm not a socialist (General Chat) - norway, Feb 26, 18:51:58
        
        And... (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Feb 26, 19:02:40
        
        :p (n/m) (General Chat) - Tony Martin, Feb 26, 18:41:22
  - Shhh! (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Feb 26, 18:12:39
    - I'm not making any point. It's TBF who's making the point. (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Feb 26, 18:39:52
      - The point you're making (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Feb 26, 18:47:46
        
        No, MY point was that you and the others will never fail to rise to the tory bait (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Feb 26, 18:52:19
        
        So says a champaigne socialist! (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Feb 26, 19:03:53
        
        you seem unable to comprehend the concept that a non-tory doesn't mean one supports labour (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Feb 26, 19:21:01
        
        I totally agree with you on this.... (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Feb 26, 20:09:42
        
        vmt (General Chat) - CWC, Feb 26, 19:57:02
        
        vmt (n/m) (General Chat) - Brandonio, Feb 26, 19:22:28
        
        Behave chelts (n/m) (General Chat) - norway, Feb 26, 19:07:04
        
        it's like talking politics with a 5 year old (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Feb 26, 19:13:41
        
        Blub! (n/m) (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Feb 26, 19:21:36
        
        He's a bit excitable. (n/m) (General Chat) - norway, Feb 26, 19:17:14
        
        Lol! (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Feb 26, 19:21:18
    - Nope (General Chat) - thebigfeller, Feb 26, 18:17:04
      - Are you seriously suggesting that anomalies like this didn't occur (General Chat) - dennis moore, Feb 26, 20:05:38
      - no they don't (General Chat) - CWC, Feb 26, 19:47:59
      - "Murdering government" (General Chat) - Old Git, Feb 26, 19:32:28
      - If its (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Feb 26, 18:20:41
        
        I have no doubt what that individual and what his department is instructing civil servants (General Chat) - thebigfeller, Feb 26, 18:25:31
        
        Dear oh dear.... (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Feb 26, 18:41:16
        
        "I have no doubt" (General Chat) - norway, Feb 26, 18:39:02
        
        Agreed. Big fella more like big numpty (n/m) (General Chat) - Tony Martin, Feb 26, 18:40:20
        
        Still.... (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Feb 26, 19:19:40
- However, I would suggest that if Germany use the same criteria, (General Chat) - dennis moore, Feb 26, 17:37:16
- Not untypical (General Chat) - Jambocanary, Feb 26, 17:27:16
- Horrible excuse for a human, truly the Devil's doing, or well, on his way to the devil. (n/m) (General Chat) - DrDublin, Feb 26, 17:09:56
  - I've exactly the same to my sister, he seems to enjoy making people who are struggling, su (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Feb 26, 19:46:56
  - Bit harsh. (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Feb 26, 18:15:33
    - bit generous imo. he's a turd of a person (n/m) (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Feb 26, 18:40:49
- I can't believe this has been here for 15 minutes (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Feb 26, 17:05:31
  - Chortle (n/m) (General Chat) - Tony Martin, Feb 26, 18:38:41
    - Just HR to go to complete the set now (n/m) (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Feb 26, 18:43:41
  - Stay classy, Ed Balls (General Chat) - Old Man, Feb 26, 17:07:33
    - *heave* (n/m) (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Feb 26, 17:12:02
    - Yes. I too think a stupid radio interview is entirely comparable with (General Chat) - thebigfeller, Feb 26, 17:12:01
      - No of course it isn't. (General Chat) - Old Man, Feb 26, 17:13:57
        
        Glad to hear it. (n/m) (General Chat) - thebigfeller, Feb 26, 17:15:47

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