I didn't see the CH4 thing

But I'm guessing it was one of

a) an extrapolation of what UKIP's policies would actually mean, or
b) an "expos?" that some kippers aren't terribly nice people.

It seems to me that both entirely miss the point.

For (a), no-one gives a s**t about their policies. They won't form a majority gummint; they will demand an in-out EU referendum as the price for a confidence-and-supply style support for a minority Tory administration after May, and nothing else. So their policies stand a precisely zero chance of being relevant to anyone or anything in any remotely psephologically possible scenario.

For (b) yes this is patently true. It's also true of Labour, the Lib Dems, the Tories and the Greens. There are utter, utter c**ts in all of the main parties - convicts, people who should be convicts, cheats, frauds, liars, perverts of every kind. It's not remotely kipper only.

The kipper vote is entirely predicated on the perceived effective disenfranchisement of a large swathe of the populus - as indeed is the green vote. It's nothing to do with the actual people in UKIP or their actual "policies" - I use the term loosely - at all.

Rather, take the tranche of people who feel alienated by politics. Those who tend to the right think UKIP; those who tend to the left think Green. Both UKIP and Greens have deeply stupid "policies" clearly written by people who should never be left alone with scissors, let alone near political power. But "policies" and the sensible analysis of them are for that very group of people - the perceived "Westminster Elite" - by whom said tranche feel disenfranchised.

The "answer" for the established parties for UKIP and Greens alike is neither to rubbish their (admittedly stupid) policies nor to attack their (admittedly horrible) people (not that the established parties have any want of horrible people either). It's to reconnect with the non-political, non-chattering classes in a real way that feels genuine and engaging in real life and not on some wonk's 2x2 diagram.

Posted By: Old Man on February 16th 2015 at 23:36:54

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