Well yes - but actually using the club being debt free as a stick to beat them with is

Ridiculous. Would we rather the club died just so we could chase the dream, or something?

My problem with these owners has always been:

1. Their football decisions

2. The way they've persistently talked the club down: not raised its profile, but lowered it

But it's quite impossible for us to be as successful as we were during the late 80s/early 90s without an owner with insanely deep pockets: and Financial Fair Play essentially precludes that now anyway.

Wigan won the FA Cup, with an owner whose money meant they could spend about two divisions above where they should naturally be. Fulham reached a European final, with an owner whose money meant they could spend about two divisions above where they should naturally be. Portsmouth won the FA Cup and bankrupted themselves in the process. 105 grand a week for Sol Campbell? An ownership saga involving Balkan criminals and gangsters? Sorry, but one FA Cup isn't worth all THAT.

Should we have nonetheless been considerably more successful than we have been since 1995? I'd say so, yes - but everything is relative. Look at both Sheffield clubs, or Leeds, or Forest. Or even, a division above ourselves, at Villa or Newcastle. We have plenty to criticise - but quite a lot to be grateful for too overall.

Posted By: thebigfeller on January 24th 2015 at 21:12:31

Message Thread

Bowfront1 comment below regarding the Smiths and board: (NCFC) - Hulk Rules, Jan 24, 20:51:46
- Well yes - but actually using the club being debt free as a stick to beat them with is (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Jan 24, 21:12:31
  - Reading your posts from earlier this evening (NCFC) - norway, Jan 24, 21:35:33
    - This was your post earlier. A balanced appraisal of the post-game reactions (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Jan 24, 21:40:15
      - Well that's repeating the point I just made, thanks. (NCFC) - norway, Jan 24, 21:47:22
        
        What 'hystericals'? People are pissed off and gutted we lost a big game and played really (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Jan 24, 21:51:45
        
        So, you posts were about me then? (NCFC) - norway, Jan 24, 21:53:02
        
        In fairness many of your posts are incredibly patronising (NCFC) - Terry Tibbs, Jan 24, 22:06:33
        
        here here, norway taken to task at last. his defence (NCFC) - robotbear, Jan 25, 07:46:13
        
        I guess it's better than being a bully (NCFC) - Terry Tibbs, Jan 25, 12:49:03
        
        Wow - another hugely unpleasant troll returns (NCFC) - norway, Jan 24, 22:13:23
        
        there you go, turns to the t word when argument lost (n/m) (NCFC) - robotbear, Jan 25, 07:46:57
        
        Trying to turn others against people you don't like. Bingo. (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Jan 24, 22:12:59
        
        You're chumming up to a known bullying troll (NCFC) - norway, Jan 24, 22:14:25
        
        No, I'm not chumming up to him. I'm agreeing with him on one perceptive observation (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Jan 24, 22:16:14
        
        Ha ha! (NCFC) - norway, Jan 24, 22:18:16
        
        What was this post about? Truly charming stuff (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Jan 24, 22:04:23
        
        Kirrie always comes across like he is a football genius (NCFC) - strap_on sally, Jan 24, 23:05:09
        
        I'd ask Fozzie about his post. (NCFC) - norway, Jan 24, 22:10:28
        
        And on this: do you really get that angry when posters use one word as opposed to another (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Jan 24, 22:18:09
        
        lol (NCFC) - norway, Jan 24, 22:20:18
        
        That was a big game today.. what an opportunity to get back in the mix (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, Jan 24, 21:48:58
        
        No doubt (NCFC) - norway, Jan 24, 21:51:11
        
        Or stay right in the mix (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 24, 21:50:42
        
        40% + of the season left. (NCFC) - norway, Jan 24, 21:52:05
        
        And no sign of improvement (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 24, 21:55:36
        
        100% (n/m) (NCFC) - norway, Jan 24, 21:56:02
      - Now that is a proper WOTB post - not the usual BigFeller fare (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, Jan 24, 21:47:18
  - This is not an either or situation.. it is not 'debt free' or 'spend us to ruin' (NCFC) - phrankin, Jan 24, 21:20:42
    - Agreed. (n/m) (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Jan 24, 21:23:00
      - The only real problem here is the idiotic decision to (NCFC) - Jim, Jan 24, 21:25:49
        
        Well yes, that too - cos if you sign expensive players with big egos (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Jan 24, 21:27:37
        
        The only ego allowed is mcnally (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 24, 21:29:19
        
        Agreed. He is a control freak. (n/m) (NCFC) - Jim, Jan 24, 21:31:23
- But to them being debt free is to be successful...l (n/m) (NCFC) - bowfront1, Jan 24, 20:56:55
  - Agree. They would rather be big fish in Championship than in Premier League. (NCFC) - Hulk Rules, Jan 24, 21:06:19
    - lol - wpotd contender (n/m) (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Jan 24, 21:10:36
      - ;) (n/m) (NCFC) - Hulk Rules, Jan 24, 21:23:28
- I don't think being debt free or not should be confused with poor decision making (NCFC) - Goalmusic, Jan 24, 20:55:41

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