"Had very little creative ability"

Disagree with this. If anything it was the main strength of the squad Hughton took on from Lambert, always capable of scoring, even late on in games. In fact, we were the seventh highest prem scorers in 11/12 (not that I disagree that the squad was limited overall).

From what I remember, Hughton concentrated on rebuilding our defence in the summer of 2012, which showed in our pre season results and performances. Obviously Surman's injury didn't help him at all, but it was his new system that really stunted Hoolahan's ability to dictate games, while the likes of Fox (crucial the previous season) were made obsolete due to their best qualities being centred around possession and creative passing skills rather than defending and reading the game.

Objectively you can say the plan was successful for that season and that's not up for debate, but it did kill the creative ability we had available at the time, rather than being a weakness that Hughton HAD to compensate for with a sound defensive plan, IMO at least.

I agree with pretty much everything else you wrote.

The Adams appointment is the reason why I haven't been active on here for some time, because I was strongly against it from the start and didn't want to stink up this board with yet more negativity. It's not that I think Adams lacks potential, but we're just not in the correct situation to gamble on a novice who has to learn on the job. This is a tough league to get out of, even for battle hardened managers such as McClaren, Redknapp and Allardyce who have/had strong squads. Maybe the board had some romantic fantasy that Adams could be the Norfolk Guardiola, I don't know, but it's mad to expect a rookie to guide a squad full of prem level (only in their own minds) egos through an ultra competitive division.

Posted By: Common Sense Police on November 8th 2014 at 22:59:35

Message Thread

Hughton and all that (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Nov 8, 21:49:18
- "Had very little creative ability" (NCFC) - Common Sense Police, Nov 8, 22:59:35
  - POTD this. Similar to what I wrote earlier but better put. (n/m) (NCFC) - Brandonio, Nov 8, 23:34:18
- Hughton only had himself to blame, he okayed the disastrous signings of last summer (NCFC) - roedtonowhere, Nov 8, 22:03:00
  - the signings weren't disastrous last summer (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Nov 8, 22:08:36
    - 8mil last summer would have got Austin (NCFC) - roedtonowhere, Nov 8, 22:16:32
    - can we stop calling Olsson a good player please? (NCFC) - Brandonio, Nov 8, 22:12:55
      - he generally did well as part of a well organised defence (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Nov 8, 22:14:13
        
        Lol. Every now and then your steadfast conviction reveals itself (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, Nov 8, 22:19:04
        
        I like meca though. Took absolute dog's abuse throughout last season but remained dignity (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Nov 8, 22:22:46
        
        Hughton managed us to relegation (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, Nov 8, 22:27:33
        
        vmt. Lots of mistakes made by the ncfc board over the last couple of years (NCFC) - Brandonio, Nov 8, 22:29:03
        
        Deserved abuse and he's a troll (NCFC) - SCC 28, Nov 8, 22:26:33
        
        so you think Olsson is playing better under Adams? (n/m) (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Nov 8, 22:21:28
        
        I think Olsson is essentially the same bloke he was 6 months ago (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, Nov 8, 22:24:00
        
        6 months ago, Adams was manager (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Nov 8, 22:25:13
        
        That's constructive. (n/m) (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, Nov 8, 22:28:38
        
        well I'm not really interested in another debate about Hughton (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Nov 8, 22:30:32
        
        we didn't really (NCFC) - Brandonio, Nov 8, 22:34:05
        
        Yeah we all wanted Adams fucktard (NCFC) - SCC 28, Nov 8, 22:32:52
- I respect people's view that Hughton was awful, but I think Hughton deserves the right to (NCFC) - pants, Nov 8, 21:58:48
  - Fair comment (NCFC) - Common Sense Police, Nov 8, 23:03:15
  - none of it matters anyway, it's history and just words (NCFC) - Charles21, Nov 8, 22:04:00
    - home defeats to Villa, WBA and Fulham relegated us more so than (NCFC) - Brandonio, Nov 8, 22:07:45
      - starting RVW was a good decision (NCFC) - Charles21, Nov 8, 22:09:17
        
        it is probably my most used gif (NCFC) - Brandonio, Nov 8, 22:11:53
        
        I went quite red with rage at the time (n/m) (NCFC) - Charles21, Nov 8, 22:13:46
        
        it's not like Van Wolfswinkel is still our player.... (NCFC) - phrankin, Nov 8, 22:25:48
  - The problem with the owners/board repeat offending, is you can see it a mile off (NCFC) - pants, Nov 8, 22:01:08
    - Very true. That's my fear now:"If they get rid of NA, how will they fuck it up this time? (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Nov 8, 22:04:26
      - This is why I called for McNally out last season (NCFC) - SCC 28, Nov 8, 22:06:45
    - my worry is who next, we just don't have the nous to make a good (NCFC) - lovely old job, Nov 8, 22:02:59
  - We'll never know. but I fancied our chances more with him in charge instead of Adams (n/m) (NCFC) - South_West_Canary, Nov 8, 22:00:25
    - We needed a ridiculous run at the end after Sunderland picked up (NCFC) - SCC 28, Nov 8, 22:02:17
      - vmt (n/m) (NCFC) - AllezLesJaunes, Nov 8, 22:07:14
      - As I said, we'll never know. (n/m) (NCFC) - South_West_Canary, Nov 8, 22:03:06
        
        So? (n/m) (NCFC) - South_West_Canary, Nov 8, 22:08:32
        
        Hughton just another to leave norwich and not get another gig (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Nov 8, 22:05:41
        
        So? (n/m) (NCFC) - South_West_Canary, Nov 8, 22:08:48
        
        Shit manager (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Nov 8, 22:15:11
  - I do too. Even now, part of me wonders whether he might've kept us up (n/m) (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Nov 8, 21:59:47
    - We needed minimum 5 points (NCFC) - SCC 28, Nov 8, 22:04:40
    - agreed - he couldn't have done any worse (n/m) (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Nov 8, 22:00:32
      - No points (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Nov 8, 22:06:58
- I won't even bother reading that. (NCFC) - avenging canary, Nov 8, 21:53:54
  - That response says far, far more about you than me I'm afraid. (n/m) (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Nov 8, 22:00:27
    - I do hope so! (n/m) (NCFC) - avenging canary, Nov 8, 22:02:41
    - keep doing what you do BJ I don't understand the hate. (n/m) (NCFC) - lovely old job, Nov 8, 22:01:20
  - Shameful response you really are scum (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Nov 8, 21:55:27
    - From you that is glorious! (NCFC) - avenging canary, Nov 8, 21:57:50
- Who would you bring in? (NCFC) - lurd, Nov 8, 21:52:49
  - Eddie Howe. I thought Poyet would be a good fit just over a year ago; I think Howe would (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Nov 8, 21:58:53
    - Hardly realistic options are they? (NCFC) - lurd, Nov 8, 22:20:46
      - Robinson has failed to get MK Dons out of League One (NCFC) - Brandonio, Nov 8, 22:22:35
    - still not convinced by Poyet (NCFC) - Brandonio, Nov 8, 22:03:18
      - Wigan lost 9-1 (n/m) (NCFC) - Charles21, Nov 8, 22:06:21
    - Howe won't leave Bournemouth. (NCFC) - avenging canary, Nov 8, 22:01:24
      - Why would he want to? (NCFC) - Fozzybear, Nov 8, 22:33:02
      - you know a lot of people.... (n/m) (NCFC) - Taxi 4 Johnson, Nov 8, 22:07:37
        
        Don't know him at all. (NCFC) - avenging canary, Nov 8, 22:09:36
- Relegation form for 18 months and destroying every striker isn't 'effective' (NCFC) - SCC 28, Nov 8, 21:51:36
  - Hughton's tactics got some good results but he slowly but surely drained (NCFC) - Brandonio, Nov 8, 22:01:28
    - But in turn, what you rightly say about belief and especially possession means (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Nov 8, 22:06:08

Reply to Message

In order to add a post to the WotB Message Board you must be a registered WotB user.

If you are not yet registered then please visit the registration page. You should ensure that their browser is setup to accept cookies.