yes, until all parties man the f**k up and address the immigration/EU issue

the mainstream parties either need to present the arguments in favour of immigration (and after that the same for the EU), and convince people that the UKIP stance is wrong, or they need to tackle such root cause problems with immigration that exist, in order to alleviate a significant concern that a significant portion of the UK populace feels exists.

As long as politicians and pundits continue to just throw words at UKIP voters, without actually manning up and tackling the underlying issues, UKIP will have a voice that is listend to.

A guy here is a labour candidate in a marginal Tory seat and all of his polling suggests that UKIP will take more votes from him than it will from the sitting Tory MP, so it's fair to say that he's not a happy bunny with his party's leadership on this.

As far as UKIP's popular support goes, it is a single issue party. Deal with that issue, and you deal with UKIP.

Posted By: CWC on October 10th 2014 at 12:57:45

Message Thread

No wonder people vote Farage when comments on health tourism are turned into this (General Chat) - phrankin, Oct 10, 11:56:29
- Run that by me again? *Goes to drawer, gets popcorn* (n/m) (General Chat) - norway, Oct 10, 11:58:55
  - *Finishes popcorn having heard nothing to back up ridiculous bullshit comment* (n/m) (General Chat) - norway, Oct 10, 12:17:45
    - Irrelevant really. Farage's days are now strictly numbered. Another half dozen defections (General Chat) - CB41, Oct 10, 12:35:48
      - Sucking Labour further to the right to compete? (General Chat) - norway, Oct 10, 12:37:02
        
        yes, until all parties man the fuck up and address the immigration/EU issue (General Chat) - CWC, Oct 10, 12:57:45
        
        Yebut there's always the Greens and Lib Dems (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Oct 10, 12:39:41
        
        Ah yes, I remember them. (n/m) (General Chat) - norway, Oct 10, 12:42:35
        
        crikey! are they still both going??!! (n/m) (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Oct 10, 12:57:37
    - when two trolls go to war, a point is all you can score (n/m) (General Chat) - schizo canary, Oct 10, 12:27:30
      - Post that again under your usual username. (n/m) (General Chat) - schizo canary, Oct 10, 12:38:24
        
        when two trolls go to war, a point is all you can score (n/m) (General Chat) - schizo canary, Oct 10, 12:41:06
      - Don't be a cunt, pal. (n/m) (General Chat) - norway, Oct 10, 12:30:18
        
        diddums (n/m) (General Chat) - phrankin, Oct 10, 12:32:36
    - dumb media slander (General Chat) - phrankin, Oct 10, 12:19:55
      - By 'slander' I presume you mean this? (General Chat) - norway, Oct 10, 12:24:17
        
        he clarified that on the radio this morning to include everyone with a terminal illness (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Oct 10, 12:33:35
        
        Great clarification (General Chat) - norway, Oct 10, 12:34:20
        
        Why should we pay for foreign nationals healthcare. (General Chat) - phrankin, Oct 10, 12:40:23
        
        absolutely. similar rules to what they have in Canada. (n/m) (General Chat) - phrankin, Oct 10, 12:26:45
        
        Oh yes, those rules he referred to when backtracking spectacularly (General Chat) - norway, Oct 10, 12:33:27
        
        You do realise you are talking to one of the thickest c**ts to ever walk the planet (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Oct 10, 12:38:44
        
        100%. (n/m) (General Chat) - norway, Oct 10, 12:41:19
        
        Given the interviewer mentioned HIV I am not surprised HIV was mentioned in the reply (General Chat) - phrankin, Oct 10, 12:39:31
        
        Pathetic (General Chat) - norway, Oct 10, 12:48:01
        
        in migration terms, (General Chat) - phrankin, Oct 10, 13:00:39
        
        but skin colour; HIV; whether English is a "second" language etc (General Chat) - Pixelman, Oct 10, 13:05:05
        
        "football team supported" perhaps should be one of them tbf. (n/m) (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Oct 10, 13:10:25
        
        Why should we pay for a foreign national's HIV treatment? (General Chat) - phrankin, Oct 10, 13:10:03
        
        cos he maybe adding much needed value to our country, ie health worker (n/m) (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Oct 10, 13:20:48
        
        At ?17,000 cost a year to the NHS (n/m) (General Chat) - phrankin, Oct 10, 13:24:51
        
        cost v value...... as a health worker (for example) he could be adding say ?50,000 of (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Oct 10, 13:27:02
        
        how about spending that 17K a year to train a brit to do the same job (n/m) (General Chat) - phrankin, Oct 10, 13:29:44
        
        Because most brits are too thick and fucking idle to do it (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Oct 10, 13:54:46
        
        cos the guy is already qualified and theres no guarantee the brit will pass the exam (n/m) (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Oct 10, 13:50:24
        
        Why not? (General Chat) - CB41, Oct 10, 13:18:00
        
        maybe because we can't afford too? (n/m) (General Chat) - phrankin, Oct 10, 13:25:12
        
        So yes, the interviewer brought up HIV, not Farage, there's a start. (n/m) (General Chat) - phrankin, Oct 10, 12:55:45
        
        You think there is "a wrong skin colour" ? (n/m) (General Chat) - Brandonio, Oct 10, 13:00:31
        
        You have my permission (General Chat) - norway, Oct 10, 13:02:28
        
        They are certainly the words the guy interviewing Farage used. (General Chat) - phrankin, Oct 10, 13:02:01
        
        Haha!!! I'm done. (n/m) (General Chat) - norway, Oct 10, 12:56:40
        
        you certainly are (n/m) (General Chat) - phrankin, Oct 10, 12:58:22
        
        What about really, really skilled people with HIV? (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Oct 10, 12:52:51
        
        i think is Oz, you can bypass some restrictions (General Chat) - phrankin, Oct 10, 15:13:09
        
        hmmm, convicted murderers WITH hiv and NO skills would be pretty fucked... (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Oct 10, 13:00:40

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