"any manager would have to be absolutely appalling not to have us in and around the top 6"

Don't agree with that at all. Loads and loads of clubs have gone down and then struggled, including plenty with 'decent squads', at least on paper.

Dunno whether that's because confidence plays such a big part, or players who've done OK in the prem are generally over-rated, or players in the champs are generally under-related. But whatever the reason, think it's ignoring history to assume that we can challenge for play-off place by right.

Posted By: Tricky Hawes on July 29th 2014 at 09:05:20

Message Thread

Don't get the anx about us not being tested in pre-season (NCFC) - Jim, Jul 29, 08:21:54
- good post (n/m) (NCFC) - paulg, Jul 29, 10:27:55
- A few thoughts... (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, Jul 29, 09:57:49
  - Howson will be our best play this season (NCFC) - Brom, Jul 29, 10:02:04
    - I will BMYP but only to laugh at (NCFC) - Old Splat, Jul 29, 10:55:58
    - came past on a golf buggy carrying his crutches last night... (NCFC) - Pixelman, Jul 29, 10:08:02
    - Howson dunt create anything nor win the ball much (n/m) (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, Jul 29, 10:05:22
- Petty much all if that. (NCFC) - APB, Jul 29, 09:16:00
  - And you missed an r out. (n/m) (NCFC) - Garry Brooke, Jul 29, 10:28:09
    - Cocksucking muthafuckas. (NCFC) - APB, Jul 29, 10:42:20
  - *of* fucking twat auto twat. (n/m) (NCFC) - APB, Jul 29, 09:24:58
- agreed - the only thing that concerns me (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Jul 29, 09:09:34
  - Wes? (n/m) (NCFC) - APB, Jul 29, 09:16:26
- How did we set up midfield in these last couple of games? Was it the diamond? (n/m) (NCFC) - Dr Baker, Jul 29, 09:01:43
- Some people like to moan because it makes them appear wiser (NCFC) - norway, Jul 29, 08:53:04
  - Right on, brother. (n/m) (NCFC) - Garry Brooke, Jul 29, 09:33:18
  - Yep. (n/m) (NCFC) - APB, Jul 29, 09:14:21
  - Yep, that somehow they're wiser than (NCFC) - Chopper, Jul 29, 09:01:51
  - My view on Adams is he's a a bit of risk but he is also not a negative idiot and (NCFC) - Jim, Jul 29, 08:58:45
    - "any manager would have to be absolutely appalling not to have us in and around the top 6" (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, Jul 29, 09:05:20
      - I don't know about loads. Most relegated teams do pretty well. (NCFC) - APB, Jul 29, 09:13:44
        
        Someone needs to Do The Maths on this (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, Jul 29, 09:18:21
        
        I'll do a look. Later. (NCFC) - APB, Jul 29, 09:25:56
        
        I'll do it later. (n/m) (NCFC) - Johnny Comecardiff, Jul 29, 09:24:45
        
        Over last 15 years..... (NCFC) - Johnny Comecardiff, Jul 29, 09:43:34
        
        So more than half (25 out of 45) *didn't* make the play-offs (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, Jul 29, 10:11:28
        
        (and I don't think it's true that "Most relegated teams do pretty well" (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, Jul 29, 10:14:11
        
        You also have to look at who they are (NCFC) - Johnny Comecardiff, Jul 29, 10:20:12
        
        Nor is it true to say "Loads and loads of clubs have gone down and then struggled" either. (NCFC) - APB, Jul 29, 10:18:03
        
        all ends up coming down to semantics (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, Jul 29, 10:21:25
        
        I wasn't. (NCFC) - APB, Jul 29, 10:26:03
        
        blimey, I wasn't thinking about pre-season at all (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, Jul 29, 10:27:49
        
        But I think our circumstances are relevant (NCFC) - Jim, Jul 29, 11:51:22
        
        Yeah, me too! (n/m) (NCFC) - APB, Jul 29, 10:43:51
        
        (I wasn't disagreeing with you) (NCFC) - APB, Jul 29, 10:47:28
        
        In that case, its All Pointless Banter (n/m) (NCFC) - Johnny Comecardiff, Jul 29, 10:50:38
        
        Do you ever get bored of the APBs, APB? (NCFC) - Johnny Comecardiff, Jul 29, 10:51:16
        
        Can't say it bothers me. It's quite an honour having / being a wrath in-joke. (NCFC) - APB, Jul 29, 10:57:27
        
        Apocryphal Panda Boast. (n/m) (NCFC) - Arizona Bay, Jul 29, 11:05:18
        
        7/10. (NCFC) - APB, Jul 29, 11:07:45
        
        There's a saying, isn't there? (NCFC) - APB, Jul 29, 10:20:38
        
        (thanks JCC, btw) (n/m) (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, Jul 29, 10:12:16
        
        That was quick. (n/m) (NCFC) - APB, Jul 29, 10:02:03
        
        I couldn't resist. (NCFC) - Johnny Comecardiff, Jul 29, 10:02:46
      - *under-rated*. Before the inevitable inbreeding joke. (n/m) (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, Jul 29, 09:05:58
        
        Ha ha. Liked that. (n/m) (NCFC) - APB, Jul 29, 09:12:15
    - I like Adams' approach; I am as yet undecided on his aptitude (NCFC) - norway, Jul 29, 09:00:02
- Ryan Bennett should be first choice alongside Turner IMO (n/m) (NCFC) - Taxi 4 Johnson, Jul 29, 08:45:40
  - Absolutely, Martin is a much better RB than a CB! (n/m) (NCFC) - Kirrie, Jul 29, 10:07:59
  - Vmt not sure why we have suddenly decided... (NCFC) - loz, Jul 29, 09:10:36
    - my guess would be that Adams thinks Whittaker is a better player (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Jul 29, 09:13:46
      - Whits is deffo a better right-back than Martin (n/m) (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, Jul 29, 09:49:33
      - And he's captain. He must have his reasons for that. (NCFC) - APB, Jul 29, 09:18:17
- Can't disagree with a word of that, Jim (NCFC) - Yellalee, Jul 29, 08:35:57
  - Anxious? (n/m) (NCFC) - APB, Jul 29, 09:18:44
  - Fair point (realised after i'd posted). (n/m) (NCFC) - Jim, Jul 29, 08:37:33
- Its just people on here getting their excuses in already for when we dont beat Wolves 10-0 (n/m) (NCFC) - Trent_Canary, Jul 29, 08:25:14

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