if you only concentrate on his strengths, yes...

but the defensive side of his game is so awful it means against a decent passing team you can't get the ball. Man U got away with it when Keane was at his peak because he was great enough to cover for him. Fergie introduced his controversial switch from 4-4-2 to 4-5-1 when he realised Keane could no longer cover for Scholes and top Euro teams were finding it too easy to pass through his midfield. So he had to add an extra midfielder to help them break up the play. With Scholes in CM England ALWAYS struggled to keep possession of the ball. The 2002 tournament is a classic example - we couldn't keep possession in any of the games and so whenever ahead adopted the Worthy "surrender midfield and drop everyone into your own penalty area" technique.

Posted By: mr carra on December 9th 2005 at 15:21:49

Message Thread

RE: Missing men (Other Football) - Hull Canary, Dec 9, 15:02:18
- Shows how much better the current side is... (Other Football) - Steve in Holland, Dec 9, 15:05:13
- That's what I was thinking... (Other Football) - Worthing Nigelton, Dec 9, 15:04:06
  - as long as no-one gets injured (Other Football) - mr carra, Dec 9, 15:07:48
  - Trouble is, so are Brazil and Argentina. Oh, and (Other Football) - Steve in Holland, Dec 9, 15:06:02
    - You can't seriously suggest that the 2002 partnership (Other Football) - Worthing Nigelton, Dec 9, 15:07:30
      - Only problem with the current first choice pairing... (Other Football) - Swanny, Dec 9, 16:16:29
        
        In all honesty though... (Other Football) - Worthing Nigelton, Dec 9, 16:19:16
        
        I wouldnt disagree with that (Other Football) - Swanny, Dec 9, 16:40:00
        
        Or the 4-4-3 that has been bandied around: (Other Football) - Worthing Nigelton, Dec 9, 16:43:36
        
        People would mention lack of width, but with Cole and Young pushing forward... (Other Football) - Worthing Nigelton, Dec 9, 16:46:10
      - they might have known their roles (Other Football) - mr carra, Dec 9, 15:11:44
        
        Scholes was a quality player though... (Other Football) - Delveg, Dec 9, 15:14:43
        
        if you only concentrate on his strengths, yes... (Other Football) - mr carra, Dec 9, 15:21:49
        
        A bit like Hucks for us I suppose... (Other Football) - Delveg, Dec 9, 15:33:52
        
        actually I nearly mentioned that (Other Football) - mr carra, Dec 9, 15:37:12
        
        Maybe our players aren't good enough... (Other Football) - Delveg, Dec 9, 15:41:34
        
        agreed (Other Football) - mr carra, Dec 9, 15:51:35
        
        Hopefully... (Other Football) - Delveg, Dec 9, 15:59:54
        
        Agreed. (n/m) (Other Football) - Worthing Nigelton, Dec 9, 15:14:24
- I know. Butt? Sinclair? Mills? (n/m) (Other Football) - mr carra, Dec 9, 15:04:04
- Funny to think Pele called Butt the best midfielder in the world, or summat. (Other Football) - Arizona Bay, Dec 9, 15:03:25
  - Pele is ful of crap though (Other Football) - Swanny, Dec 9, 16:13:34
  - I wonder if thats where he wanted to put his midfield (n/m) (Other Football) - pants, Dec 9, 15:12:03
  - behind hughes (n/m) (Other Football) - NCFC4life, Dec 9, 15:04:43

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