It's far more that 1) Whoever replaced Fergie was always on a hiding to nothing

2) He just doesn't know how to manage a club of that stature. The higher someone goes in football, the harder it gets.

It's the revisionism of football fans - you did great for 11 years in your previous job, left fantastic foundations and the fans were gutted to see you go; but now your successor's done better for just 1 year, while you are clearly s**t because this was just the wrong move for you completely - that drives me nuts.

He's a VERY good manager. He's just not up to a club of that stature.

Posted By: thebigfeller on April 21st 2014 at 15:28:10

Message Thread

Would anyone take david moyes next season (n/m) (NCFC) - hoolahan, Apr 21, 15:01:39
- Tries too hard to be a clone of Fergie even down to the mannerisms (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, Apr 21, 15:39:18
- Identical manager to Hughton. (n/m) (NCFC) - norway, Apr 21, 15:21:09
- no. Never rated him. Never got the hype (NCFC) - Brandonio, Apr 21, 15:16:42
- Hasn't he been accused of being quite defensive? (NCFC) - Ben, Apr 21, 15:09:49
  - rigid, clueless, dull, boring, 57 pts after 34; his everton side had 56 after 34 last year (NCFC) - phrankin, Apr 21, 15:14:47
    - Point 8 sums up Hughton for me (NCFC) - Ben, Apr 21, 15:34:18
- of course, but no chance he would come to us (n/m) (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Apr 21, 15:05:40
  - Why? If we stay up? He might like the chance to build his own team (NCFC) - hoolahan, Apr 21, 15:08:08
    - I just think he would get better offers (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Apr 21, 15:10:57
      - Of course he'll get better offers. Some people on here are out of their minds (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Apr 21, 15:12:02
        
        Probably a Newcastle, Villa, Sunderland, West Ham... (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, Apr 21, 15:19:19
  - If we stay up, I reckon he would. He is now a Hughes / Bruce / Pulis. (NCFC) - phrankin, Apr 21, 15:07:20
    - not sure about that (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Apr 21, 15:09:32
      - I was just thinking, he could ruin a club like Southampton (NCFC) - phrankin, Apr 21, 15:10:36
        
        maybe, but I don't think his tactics were especially bad at Everton (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Apr 21, 15:13:09
        
        Fellani and Mata! Wow... what genious signings... 70 million quid. (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, Apr 21, 15:18:13
        
        I think Mata is a great signing (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Apr 21, 15:20:32
        
        wow, with 70 million spent on 2 players he has picked up one decent signing and a shit one (NCFC) - phrankin, Apr 21, 15:22:48
        
        It's far more that 1) Whoever replaced Fergie was always on a hiding to nothing (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Apr 21, 15:28:10
        
        Done better.... Martinez has taken them to another level of football completely! (NCFC) - phrankin, Apr 21, 15:31:02
        
        So let's see what happens next season. And the one after that. (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Apr 21, 15:32:10
        
        I dunno... he won tiny wigan an FA Cup... How did Moyes do in the cups? (NCFC) - phrankin, Apr 21, 15:33:53
        
        Martinez is a very good manager, I don't think anyone would dispute that (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Apr 21, 15:40:33
        
        I doubt it would have made a great deal of difference. (NCFC) - phrankin, Apr 21, 15:42:04
        
        ok (n/m) (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Apr 21, 15:44:18
        
        and anyway I thought his transfer dealings were excellent in any case (NCFC) - phrankin, Apr 21, 15:46:02
        
        because Lukaku is a 30m striker - one of the best in the league (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Apr 21, 15:48:01
        
        Yes, an excellent move in the transfer market. and? (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, Apr 21, 15:57:19
        
        Correct again. (n/m) (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Apr 21, 15:49:50
        
        Martinez got relegated as well. I think he's terrific - but all these instant judgements (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Apr 21, 15:37:31
        
        Yes, and Hughton would probably have sent us down. Being relegated (NCFC) - phrankin, Apr 21, 15:40:42
        
        very good transfer record at everton as well (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Apr 21, 15:25:27
        
        Yes. Moyes' transfer record at Everton was ridiculously good. Made MON at Villa look a (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Apr 21, 15:32:59
        
        well, that is a shit transfer record at United for starters, (NCFC) - phrankin, Apr 21, 15:29:24
        
        No, they're not. They weren't 'from the dark ages' at Everton (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Apr 21, 15:31:22
        
        They are clogger defensive cautious tactics. (NCFC) - phrankin, Apr 21, 15:33:02
        
        Er, yes? You have no idea about confidence in football, do you? (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Apr 21, 15:35:45
        
        I think we can safely describe putting in 80 crosses against Fulham as one dimensional (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, Apr 21, 15:36:58
- Moyes to Villa IMO. (n/m) (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Apr 21, 15:05:19
- yes, but we wouldn't get him (n/m) (NCFC) - earlydoors, Apr 21, 15:04:59
- Would never happen. Tottenham will go for him. (n/m) (NCFC) - ingi, Apr 21, 15:04:33
  - only if they desperate for shit football and no hope of winning a trophy (NCFC) - Brandonio, Apr 21, 15:17:49
  - No way. Why on earth would they want Moyes! (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, Apr 21, 15:07:48
  - Van Gaal or, failing that, De Boer to Tottenham. Moyes? Pffft. (n/m) (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Apr 21, 15:06:46
- He'll get a premiership jig. Looking at Pulis, Hughes and Bruce, you'd take it (NCFC) - phrankin, Apr 21, 15:04:03
- Yes (n/m) (NCFC) - KentonCanary, Apr 21, 15:03:34
- Definitely (n/m) (NCFC) - 51eve, Apr 21, 15:01:58
  - Yes (n/m) (NCFC) - Coventry Yellow, Apr 21, 15:02:16

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