Again, you ignore the fact that Lambert took over a side that finished with 38 points

and Hughton took over a side that finished with 47 points.

That Villa squad needed a complete rebuilding job, it was horrible at the end of McCleish's tenure due to years of Lerner selling off Villa's best players.

Both have had a similar net spend since then, but Villa have progressed whereas we seem to have regressed.

I don't think that Lambert is god, but he's certainly better than Hughton and I'm tired of these silly comparisons which gloss over reality.

This is not me saying Hughton's s**t, but it becomes annoying when people try to (wrongly) compare Lambert in order to justify Hughton's failings.

Posted By: Common Sense Police on December 5th 2013 at 01:12:04

Message Thread

FAO mecagoenti (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Dec 5, 00:08:38
- Not really sure what those results are supposed to show (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Dec 5, 00:12:29
  - I'm not sure we're "comfortably clear"... (NCFC) - yellowman, Dec 5, 00:48:29
  - Oh no we can't. And we've already played our easiest home game of the season (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Dec 5, 00:19:22
    - by the same token (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Dec 5, 00:21:24
      - 1 away win last season from those sides 'around us' (NCFC) - phrankin, Dec 5, 00:30:54
  - We seem to get more than our share of humpings (n/m) (NCFC) - 51eve, Dec 5, 00:14:58
    - about the same as under lambert (n/m) (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Dec 5, 00:16:05
      - Yep, I was DEVASTATED by our performance in drawing 3-3 at Arsenal (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Dec 5, 00:20:37
        
        beat spurs (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Dec 5, 00:31:06
        
        In our last ten games of that season we gained 11 points (NCFC) - Common Sense Police, Dec 5, 00:39:35
        
        well bigfeller is pointing to that (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Dec 5, 00:53:42
        
        It doesn't really undermine his point when our worst form under Lambert (NCFC) - Common Sense Police, Dec 5, 00:59:01
        
        FFS (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Dec 5, 01:17:07
        
        Are you thick? (NCFC) - Common Sense Police, Dec 5, 01:19:13
        
        that was not the point I made (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Dec 5, 01:22:20
        
        ...but it was the point I made (NCFC) - Common Sense Police, Dec 5, 01:26:40
        
        show me where (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Dec 5, 01:30:46
        
        You pointed out some shit performances and results (NCFC) - Common Sense Police, Dec 5, 01:37:25
        
        again (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Dec 5, 01:43:49
        
        ...but his argument is closer to the truth than yours (NCFC) - Common Sense Police, Dec 5, 01:48:38
        
        again (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Dec 5, 01:43:38
        
        depends if you think the manager is taking us forwards or backwards (NCFC) - phrankin, Dec 5, 00:56:46
        
        a 'relatively' poor end of season (NCFC) - phrankin, Dec 5, 00:33:17
        
        what about getting hammered 3-0 at sunderland (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Dec 5, 00:22:15
        
        you mean when we were 'on the beach' safe... (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, Dec 5, 00:31:29
        
        We only really got hammered a couple of times under Lambert (NCFC) - Common Sense Police, Dec 5, 00:28:35
        
        the Lambert side in 11/12 (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Dec 5, 00:37:40
        
        Arguably better resources? (NCFC) - Common Sense Police, Dec 5, 00:42:56
        
        Lambert has spent more than Hughton (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Dec 5, 01:04:53
        
        Again, you ignore the fact that Lambert took over a side that finished with 38 points (NCFC) - Common Sense Police, Dec 5, 01:12:04
        
        I ignore it (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Dec 5, 01:21:16
        
        ...but I'm not ignoring that... (NCFC) - Common Sense Police, Dec 5, 01:24:44
        
        I do not believe (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Dec 5, 01:47:11
        
        I hope you're correct (n/m) (NCFC) - Common Sense Police, Dec 5, 01:49:14
        
        Or indeed Lambert's positive mentality affecting the squad (NCFC) - phrankin, Dec 5, 00:41:15
        
        Hughton at Norwich has almost an identical net spend as Lambert at Villa (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, Dec 5, 00:38:44
        
        and have had more 0-0s than we have this season (n/m) (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Dec 5, 00:38:25
        
        We have the worst goals conceded tally in the league right now (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, Dec 5, 00:39:37
        
        well. this investment thing is a red herring (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Dec 5, 00:31:24
        
        So by that token all of the other teams at our level and below should be tonked regularly (n/m) (NCFC) - Common Sense Police, Dec 5, 00:34:47
        
        well no.. all I'm saying is that the fact we have spent 30m (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Dec 5, 00:36:55
        
        Well, some teams at our level have spent a little more, most the same, some less... (NCFC) - Common Sense Police, Dec 5, 00:40:42
        
        we've only been thrashed twice this season (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Dec 5, 00:42:44
        
        Arsenal as well... (NCFC) - Common Sense Police, Dec 5, 00:44:41
        
        I think Arsenal was different.. certainly not a thrashing (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Dec 5, 00:46:19
        
        Yes Thrashings can happen when you choose to have a go a 2-0 down (NCFC) - phrankin, Dec 5, 00:47:41
        
        Like when we chose to accept defeat at White Hart Lane (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, Dec 5, 00:48:20
        
        4-1 is not a thrashing? Standards have certainly fallen... (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, Dec 5, 00:43:50
        
        and how many more rubbish sides are there? (NCFC) - phrankin, Dec 5, 00:32:07
        
        When we were already safe in mid-table, and cruising in having basically secured safety by (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Dec 5, 00:26:43
        
        so you preferred the style of play under Lambert (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Dec 5, 00:35:00
        
        The main reason we will stay up this season, is three crap sides got promoted (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, Dec 5, 00:34:05

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