maybe

and maybe if he was tactically worse we'd have looked a disorganised shambles and been comprehensively rolled over. No one really knows. Hughton is putting togther a squad to play his way and to me there are clear signs of improvement over the past month or so, albeit not yet (the Stoke game was huge in showing that we could control a game away from home - can't remember the last time that was true at this level and it gives us the potential to significantly inprove our away record from last season). Getting in someone else to try and get the same players to play a different way is a huge gamble and we should be pretty sure of our reasoning before we take that big plunge.

The league is shaping up like last season - about 8 teams will go clear at the top and the other 11/12 will be scrabbling about beating each other and probably remaining in danger of relegation until the last few weeks. Think that's the new Prem League normal.

Posted By: mr carra on October 28th 2013 at 12:33:52

Message Thread

I apologise for saying yesterday that all those that keep slagging Hughton off are bigots, (NCFC) - OiFulcher93, Oct 28, 11:43:25
- Fair points,I get pissed off when I still read comments about sacking when we haven't lost (NCFC) - pants, Oct 28, 11:55:28
  - thank you mate it is nice to see someone who thinks the same (NCFC) - OiFulcher93, Oct 28, 12:16:33
    - Seems because we spent ?20m, alongside everyone else around us (NCFC) - pants, Oct 28, 12:21:08
      - thats exactly, this year is going to be even tighter than last season i think literally (NCFC) - OiFulcher93, Oct 28, 12:23:37
- by your definition, plenty of HUGHTON IN people are bigots (NCFC) - bjg123, Oct 28, 11:52:52
  - But the reasoning behind the past is lack of shots on goal and chances (NCFC) - pants, Oct 28, 12:02:10
  - well generally speaking (NCFC) - OiFulcher93, Oct 28, 11:57:39
    - Yep, mostly (NCFC) - duke of york, Oct 28, 11:59:49
      - I think we have been unlucky that RvW is injured now and that Hoops got injured preseason (NCFC) - Maillot Jaune, Oct 28, 12:07:20
        
        ricky hardly been prolific tho (NCFC) - SCC 28, Oct 28, 12:09:35
        
        how can u say that (NCFC) - OiFulcher93, Oct 28, 12:36:44
        
        maybe if he didn't go missing in games he'd have more chances (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Oct 28, 12:38:30
        
        but you can see that his movement and ability to be in the right place at the right time (NCFC) - Maillot Jaune, Oct 28, 12:16:30
        
        not at all (NCFC) - SCC 28, Oct 28, 12:18:48
        
        because the team is starting to play as a team... (NCFC) - Maillot Jaune, Oct 28, 12:24:52
        
        i can't disagree we're playing better (NCFC) - SCC 28, Oct 28, 12:29:02
        
        So you agree then that the chances of us scoring is improved by having a better midfield (NCFC) - Maillot Jaune, Oct 28, 12:37:11
        
        Hughton shouldn't be anywhere near being sacked (NCFC) - OiFulcher93, Oct 28, 12:39:30
        
        But over the next 6 or 7 games we have to start picking up points (NCFC) - Maillot Jaune, Oct 28, 12:57:57
        
        He isn't. (n/m) (NCFC) - CB41, Oct 28, 12:44:37
        
        No guarantee but... (NCFC) - loz, Oct 28, 12:22:32
        
        chelsea was his best game yes (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Oct 28, 12:28:15
      - i can't think of anyone who wants him out regardless (NCFC) - SCC 28, Oct 28, 12:01:33
        
        To be fair SCC.. (NCFC) - loz, Oct 28, 12:20:50
        
        nope (NCFC) - SCC 28, Oct 28, 12:22:02
    - isn't it obvious things haven't clicked? (NCFC) - SCC 28, Oct 28, 11:59:03
      - By that thinking, all teams from 12th downwards should be sacking their managers (n/m) (NCFC) - pants, Oct 28, 12:05:07
        
        But then someone will say other teams are nothing to do with us (NCFC) - pants, Oct 28, 12:06:35
        
        How many 100% "Hughton outers" are there on here? (n/m) (NCFC) - duke of york, Oct 28, 12:07:57
        
        There is always over reaction post game...because most of us (NCFC) - Maillot Jaune, Oct 28, 12:19:27
        
        Yes, but after a couple of losses, it goes on every day till we play again (NCFC) - pants, Oct 28, 12:54:04
        
        I don't know, but this place needs to be completely left alone when we lose (NCFC) - pants, Oct 28, 12:09:23
        
        precisely (n/m) (NCFC) - OiFulcher93, Oct 28, 12:21:44
- check the table out pal (NCFC) - SCC 28, Oct 28, 11:46:32
  - Check out all your posts about David Marshall going pmsl laughing for the last 4 years (NCFC) - pants, Oct 28, 12:10:06
  - Results business... (NCFC) - loz, Oct 28, 11:49:12
    - but we didn't win (NCFC) - SCC 28, Oct 28, 11:55:25
      - playing Devil's Advocate here (NCFC) - mr carra, Oct 28, 12:16:42
        
        yes it is fine margins (NCFC) - SCC 28, Oct 28, 12:21:15
        
        maybe (NCFC) - mr carra, Oct 28, 12:33:52
        
        Spot on (n/m) (NCFC) - Yellalee, Oct 28, 12:52:27
      - I accept that but if we had won... (NCFC) - loz, Oct 28, 12:03:41
        
        yes we deserved to win (NCFC) - SCC 28, Oct 28, 12:07:22
        
        No but this is a new team... (NCFC) - loz, Oct 28, 12:14:17
        
        we should all be behind the manger (n/m) (NCFC) - OiFulcher93, Oct 28, 12:18:22
        
        we all want him to do well (NCFC) - SCC 28, Oct 28, 12:35:00
        
        Nonsense (NCFC) - duke of york, Oct 28, 12:06:16
        
        Agree to disagree fact is... (NCFC) - loz, Oct 28, 12:09:24
        
        they're also irked by their own incompetence (NCFC) - SCC 28, Oct 28, 12:12:43
        
        I wouldn't dispute that.. (NCFC) - loz, Oct 28, 12:19:03
        
        i would that is just the desire to win a game i wouldn't (NCFC) - OiFulcher93, Oct 28, 12:25:37
      - we haven't played at our certain (NCFC) - OiFulcher93, Oct 28, 12:02:42
        
        but it's not about 9 games is it (NCFC) - SCC 28, Oct 28, 12:05:07
        
        well i find it hard to believe that (NCFC) - OiFulcher93, Oct 28, 12:07:51
        
        had we won as we should have (NCFC) - SCC 28, Oct 28, 12:11:19
        
        blame the players for that not Hughton (n/m) (NCFC) - OiFulcher93, Oct 28, 12:13:17
        
        the players should have scored two or three goals on Saturday (NCFC) - OiFulcher93, Oct 28, 12:29:54
        
        but was his fault we only played 2 strikers for last few minutes (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Oct 28, 12:31:36
        
        with one more striker we'd have had one less midfielder (NCFC) - mr carra, Oct 28, 12:49:49
        
        like adrain forbes said on canary call. . . (NCFC) - OiFulcher93, Oct 28, 12:42:58
        
        but hughton buys and picks the players (NCFC) - SCC 28, Oct 28, 12:16:06
        
        but even good players and tactics don't get things right all the time (NCFC) - mr carra, Oct 28, 12:19:58
        
        completely agree Mr cara (n/m) (NCFC) - OiFulcher93, Oct 28, 12:31:13
        
        in isolation it was one of those days (NCFC) - SCC 28, Oct 28, 12:24:32
        
        is this the same Cardiff who beat Man City and won at Fulham? (NCFC) - mr carra, Oct 28, 12:35:48
        
        yes same team (NCFC) - SCC 28, Oct 28, 12:41:06
        
        there are a quite a few teams at that level (NCFC) - mr carra, Oct 28, 13:01:48
        
        8 or 9 teams at cardiff's level?! (NCFC) - SCC 28, Oct 28, 13:09:43
        
        well there are at least that many teams within 3 points of them (NCFC) - mr carra, Oct 28, 13:16:10
        
        newly promoted teams at home are easier games sorry (NCFC) - SCC 28, Oct 28, 13:20:38
        
        Allow me to reassure you that there is no (NCFC) - OiFulcher93, Oct 28, 13:22:11
        
        yes i said easier (NCFC) - SCC 28, Oct 28, 13:24:26
        
        hth? well im not sure, i think our dominance was dwn to how we played (NCFC) - OiFulcher93, Oct 28, 16:13:11
    - i would only say that (NCFC) - OiFulcher93, Oct 28, 11:54:30
    - I remember West Ham and Forest teams being too good to go down (n/m) (NCFC) - duke of york, Oct 28, 11:49:49
      - I know and I am very troubled by our... (NCFC) - loz, Oct 28, 11:53:12
- A more accurate description of bigot (NCFC) - duke of york, Oct 28, 11:45:12
  - that's the whole point (NCFC) - OiFulcher93, Oct 28, 12:00:07
  - what (n/m) (NCFC) - OiFulcher93, Oct 28, 11:58:08
    - Bigot is almost always used in the context of race, politics and religion (NCFC) - duke of york, Oct 28, 12:00:41
      - yes almost always you say (NCFC) - OiFulcher93, Oct 28, 12:04:06
        
        i apologised for the sake of not wanting to upset anyone (NCFC) - OiFulcher93, Oct 28, 18:28:40
        
        So why did you apologise for using the word in the op? you know what you meant the (NCFC) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Oct 28, 12:15:56
        
        Oh well (NCFC) - duke of york, Oct 28, 12:07:07

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