On a point of tactics, the only thing that concerns me
about Hughton's comments after the game was saying if you play too far forward these teams will pick you off.
To me that smacks of a lack of confidence in his players' ability to compete, which I'd have thought they pick up on and does little for their own confidence.
We simply don't press the ball as a team, giving the back four literally all the time in the world to play it out and inviting wave upon wave of pressure. That's fine if you've got genuine pace as an outlet, or a target man who can hold it up. Barring Redders, we have neither of these, so we end up trying to play it through the team in a slow and ponderous way, and ultimately losing it quite quickly because the opposition are already high up the pitch and pressing *us*.
This was the same last season, and many of us were crying out for us to just play 10 yards further forward, irrespective of the formation.
We did it at Swansea strangely, and it worked. We also did it at Man City when the pressure was off. I just get the sense - and it's no more than that - that there's a general lack of belief from the management team about our ability to compete, which manifests itself in our dismal away performances.
And personally, I *would* rather lose 3-2 than 2-0. Because then there's at least a chance that you'll win a handful of away games.
I'm not a Hughton outer, but I just don't really like his approach to football. Don't think that's a crime.
Posted By: duke of york on September 16th 2013 at 10:50:08
Message Thread
- If we get a result on Saturday, will the Villa fans be singing Hughton's name? (n/m) (NCFC) - lurd, Sep 16, 09:55:46
- Just know we'll beat them at home!! 3-0. It's hard to dislkie Hoots, seems a top bloke! (n/m) (NCFC) - DrDublin, Sep 16, 10:29:45
- We certainly need a result on Saturday. (NCFC) - Pit, Sep 16, 10:25:49
- Certainly do with the run of games after Stoke! (n/m) (NCFC) - Kirrie, Sep 16, 10:47:17
- Saturday's performance was unacceptable (NCFC) - norway, Sep 16, 10:33:31
- well said (n/m) (NCFC) - essexcanaryOTBC, Sep 16, 11:26:06
- Looking forward to Saturday (NCFC) - duke of york, Sep 16, 10:38:52
- So am I - off on me holibobs (n/m) (NCFC) - CB41, Sep 16, 12:38:46
- All those are fair - but Johnson appears undroppable. (n/m) (NCFC) - norway, Sep 16, 10:40:32
- BJ should not be undroppable (NCFC) - essexcanaryOTBC, Sep 16, 11:27:14
- Maybe up til now, but taking him off on Sat would hint at otherwise (n/m) (NCFC) - Yellalee, Sep 16, 11:00:07
- Yes. agree. onwards. I think we are struggling a bit to gel and get the season moving. (NCFC) - Pit, Sep 16, 10:35:47
- I agree, Garrido has not started the season well and I am not his biggest fan tbh (NCFC) - essexcanaryOTBC, Sep 16, 11:30:04
- I think he's been poor for a good six months (NCFC) - norway, Sep 16, 10:39:39
- On a point of tactics, the only thing that concerns me (NCFC) - duke of york, Sep 16, 10:50:08
- Bingo, 100%, A+, please read Chris Hughton (n/m) (NCFC) - SeattleSounders, Sep 16, 13:35:11
- ^^^this. very much. (n/m) (NCFC) - Old Man, Sep 16, 11:04:24
- We play so deep if we ever get the ball it takes 25 (NCFC) - SeattleSounders, Sep 16, 13:39:17
- Yep - a nuanced argument expressing concerns (NCFC) - norway, Sep 16, 10:57:39
- If I compare say Liverpool away in 2011 and Saturday. Its totally different. (NCFC) - Pit, Sep 16, 11:06:02
- liverpool away 2011 v liverpool away 2012 is a better comparison! (n/m) (NCFC) - Cheltenham_Canary, Sep 16, 11:13:14
- ok. what was the difference. I didnt do 2012 away (n/m) (NCFC) - Pit, Sep 16, 11:33:46
- 2012 away was gutlass, clueless, tacticly void, useless, pointless....far worse than (NCFC) - Cheltenham_Canary, Sep 16, 11:53:08
- sounds a bit like Fulham away at the start of last season (n/m) (NCFC) - essexcanaryOTBC, Sep 16, 11:59:00
- I got heat stroke that day. Didnt like the mixed away end either. (NCFC) - Pit, Sep 16, 12:06:02
- That and the fact that it was probably the worst game Turner has probably EVER played (NCFC) - essexcanaryOTBC, Sep 16, 12:07:38
- then the stupid song which followed on. "he used to be shyte.." etc (NCFC) - Pit, Sep 16, 12:17:47
- he had one really shit game and a few below par ones (NCFC) - essexcanaryOTBC, Sep 16, 12:53:36
- He's done well. The song is just embarassing really. (n/m) (NCFC) - Pit, Sep 16, 13:35:23
- He's a proper traditional no nonsense CB - compliments Seb well (n/m) (NCFC) - essexcanaryOTBC, Sep 16, 13:47:15
- Yep agree. Garrido is the weak link at he back at the mo. (NCFC) - Pit, Sep 16, 13:50:57
- Olsson deserves his chance for sure (NCFC) - essexcanaryOTBC, Sep 16, 14:03:26
- Snoddy would just be better off staying on his feet. Diving is an art form (NCFC) - Pit, Sep 16, 14:06:45
- clearly! (n/m) (NCFC) - essexcanaryOTBC, Sep 16, 14:08:18
- Snoddy would just be better off staying on his feet. Diving is an art form (NCFC) - Pit, Sep 16, 14:06:45
- Olsson deserves his chance for sure (NCFC) - essexcanaryOTBC, Sep 16, 14:03:26
- Yep agree. Garrido is the weak link at he back at the mo. (NCFC) - Pit, Sep 16, 13:50:57
- He's a proper traditional no nonsense CB - compliments Seb well (n/m) (NCFC) - essexcanaryOTBC, Sep 16, 13:47:15
- He's done well. The song is just embarassing really. (n/m) (NCFC) - Pit, Sep 16, 13:35:23
- he had one really shit game and a few below par ones (NCFC) - essexcanaryOTBC, Sep 16, 12:53:36
- then the stupid song which followed on. "he used to be shyte.." etc (NCFC) - Pit, Sep 16, 12:17:47
- That and the fact that it was probably the worst game Turner has probably EVER played (NCFC) - essexcanaryOTBC, Sep 16, 12:07:38
- I got heat stroke that day. Didnt like the mixed away end either. (NCFC) - Pit, Sep 16, 12:06:02
- too many of our away games since Sept 2012 could apply to that description. (NCFC) - Pit, Sep 16, 11:57:52
- sadly true......though two games in two season v the same team produced vastly different (NCFC) - Cheltenham_Canary, Sep 16, 12:17:57
- sounds a bit like Fulham away at the start of last season (n/m) (NCFC) - essexcanaryOTBC, Sep 16, 11:59:00
- 2012 away was gutlass, clueless, tacticly void, useless, pointless....far worse than (NCFC) - Cheltenham_Canary, Sep 16, 11:53:08
- ok. what was the difference. I didnt do 2012 away (n/m) (NCFC) - Pit, Sep 16, 11:33:46
- liverpool away 2011 v liverpool away 2012 is a better comparison! (n/m) (NCFC) - Cheltenham_Canary, Sep 16, 11:13:14
- If I compare say Liverpool away in 2011 and Saturday. Its totally different. (NCFC) - Pit, Sep 16, 11:06:02
- i've always said i beleive that many fans..... (NCFC) - Cheltenham_Canary, Sep 16, 10:45:44
- Yes. Would like to see Ollo in there on Sat. Agree Hoots is fairly honest. (NCFC) - Pit, Sep 16, 10:49:49
- On a point of tactics, the only thing that concerns me (NCFC) - duke of york, Sep 16, 10:50:08
- is it live on the telly? if so what channel, what time? (n/m) (NCFC) - Cheltenham_Canary, Sep 16, 09:58:50
- BT 12:45 K.O. (n/m) (NCFC) - colincanary, Sep 16, 10:04:13
- cheers but bollocks! need to goto my local villa supporting pub again... (NCFC) - Cheltenham_Canary, Sep 16, 10:07:59
- haha (NCFC) - essexcanaryOTBC, Sep 16, 11:33:28
- we on as well the following week at Stoke but.. (NCFC) - colincanary, Sep 16, 10:15:33
- Might be different with Stoke's new 'expansive' style of play! (n/m) (NCFC) - Kirrie, Sep 16, 10:46:37
- yeah, good excuse not to watch it.... (NCFC) - Cheltenham_Canary, Sep 16, 10:21:19
- Diving masterclass with Ashley Young ? (n/m) (NCFC) - Kirrie, Sep 16, 10:49:24
- cheers but bollocks! need to goto my local villa supporting pub again... (NCFC) - Cheltenham_Canary, Sep 16, 10:07:59
- BT 12:45 K.O. (n/m) (NCFC) - colincanary, Sep 16, 10:04:13
- Hopefully! (n/m) (NCFC) - Drinklebells, Sep 16, 09:58:33
- ? (n/m) (NCFC) - Arizona Bay, Sep 16, 09:56:31
- They sang Lambo's name when Mccleish was doing badly. (NCFC) - lurd, Sep 16, 10:13:52
- Even Brom knew (NCFC) - Old Git, Sep 16, 10:21:10
- They sang Lambo's name when Mccleish was doing badly. (NCFC) - lurd, Sep 16, 10:13:52
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