on the other side

take someone like Russell Brand (whatever people think of him) he could have quite easily died many years ago of drug abuse (same with P!nk the singer) but they were young enough to get the help they needed when there was still time to reverse the bulk of the damage

unfortunately gazza never got that as far as I can see
that's where I think family and friends let him and others in the same boat down, not nipping it in the bud ASAP!

But it's never easy, and takes a huge amount of courage and resilience and commitment to help someone like that, it takes a lot of NO's and being cruel to be kind in the long run, I guess gazza never had that or pushed those who wanted to/could help away maybe

now it's probably too late for that kind of help

Posted By: essexcanaryOTBC on July 21st 2013 at 14:24:25

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old news?! gazza charged with assault and being d&d on 2 accounts- blokes killing himself (n/m) (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Jul 21, 13:55:57
- on the other side (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jul 21, 14:24:25
- I hate to day it (General Chat) - Darren Eadie, Jul 21, 14:20:12
  - would not surprise me in the slightest (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jul 21, 14:25:21
  - yeah see my post above... (n/m) (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Jul 21, 14:21:31
- wow (General Chat) - pants, Jul 21, 14:13:36
  - it was a short-term fix to delay the inevitable (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jul 21, 14:19:46
  - fucking hell.... (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Jul 21, 14:18:30
    - One of them, but George Best and Amy Winehouse spring to mind as well (General Chat) - scruffy, Jul 21, 14:27:29
      - yep! (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jul 21, 14:28:09
- what he needs is someone strong enough to help him back on the (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jul 21, 14:01:46
  - I think someone needs to want to change as well (General Chat) - scruffy, Jul 21, 14:12:51
    - agree with that also (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jul 21, 14:18:50
      - yep (General Chat) - scruffy, Jul 21, 14:24:06
        
        very true (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jul 21, 14:27:35
  - yep. (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Jul 21, 14:03:38
    - their suffering is probably on the same scale as his I reckon (n/m) (General Chat) - pants, Jul 21, 14:15:16
    - i used to think that about family and friends etc of people in his state (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jul 21, 14:05:49
      - plus whatever he's dealing with now probably extends back to when he was a young up and (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jul 21, 14:08:09
      - it would seem that way.... and with each 'misdemeanor' (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Jul 21, 14:07:15
        
        agree! (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jul 21, 14:10:31
        
        yes, it all seems to reactive rather than preventitive.... (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Jul 21, 14:16:33
        
        There is, people can be sectioned (and Gazza has in the past) (General Chat) - scruffy, Jul 21, 14:53:10
        
        When you've got an addiction of that nature (General Chat) - Old Man, Jul 21, 14:14:19
        
        it's also something that is so much easier to deal with early (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jul 21, 14:21:23
        
        A hard one, because in early stages (General Chat) - pants, Jul 21, 14:37:29
        
        it's still quite easy to see when some people's behaviour is starting to (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jul 21, 14:48:33
- He seems beyond help I'm afraid. (n/m) (General Chat) - Hulk Rules, Jul 21, 14:00:21
  - seems so. think he's determined to end up like george best. (n/m) (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Jul 21, 14:01:12

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