agree with that also
but like I said, he probably has built this up over so many years, he probably deep down doesn't want to change and would prefer to end it all, sadly he's doing it through this self-harming sort of way that most do, and what's worse it's in the public spotlight for all to see his demise sadly
wanting to change, and wanting to be put or put yourself through what would be required in order to achieve that change are two very different things, I imagine if someone asked if he wanted to turn the clock back a few decades he would jump at the chance, but to offer him what is required to make the most of what he has left, probably doesn't seem worth all the investment to him anymore tbh
I don't think that's selfish, just reasonable risk reward/cost benefit analysis
He probably thinks he'll never get back the life he used to have, so why bother trying to salvage anything, that's usually why people end up drinking themselves (etc) to death, I'm guessing....
it's basically a mental illness ain't it, like if we lost a limb, we couldn't ever get it back, yes we could have an artificial prosphetic attached and re-learn to do things differently etc, but mental health is quite a different beast sadly
our minds can help us deal with losing limbs, but our limbs can't really help our minds when they're damaged (it all starts in the mind.....)
Posted By: essexcanaryOTBC on July 21st 2013 at 14:18:50
Message Thread
- old news?! gazza charged with assault and being d&d on 2 accounts- blokes killing himself (n/m) (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Jul 21, 13:55:57
- on the other side (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jul 21, 14:24:25
- I hate to day it (General Chat) - Darren Eadie, Jul 21, 14:20:12
- would not surprise me in the slightest (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jul 21, 14:25:21
- yeah see my post above... (n/m) (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Jul 21, 14:21:31
- wow (General Chat) - pants, Jul 21, 14:13:36
- it was a short-term fix to delay the inevitable (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jul 21, 14:19:46
- fucking hell.... (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Jul 21, 14:18:30
- One of them, but George Best and Amy Winehouse spring to mind as well (General Chat) - scruffy, Jul 21, 14:27:29
- yep! (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jul 21, 14:28:09
- One of them, but George Best and Amy Winehouse spring to mind as well (General Chat) - scruffy, Jul 21, 14:27:29
- what he needs is someone strong enough to help him back on the (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jul 21, 14:01:46
- I think someone needs to want to change as well (General Chat) - scruffy, Jul 21, 14:12:51
- agree with that also (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jul 21, 14:18:50
- yep (General Chat) - scruffy, Jul 21, 14:24:06
- very true (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jul 21, 14:27:35
- yep (General Chat) - scruffy, Jul 21, 14:24:06
- agree with that also (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jul 21, 14:18:50
- yep. (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Jul 21, 14:03:38
- their suffering is probably on the same scale as his I reckon (n/m) (General Chat) - pants, Jul 21, 14:15:16
- i used to think that about family and friends etc of people in his state (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jul 21, 14:05:49
- plus whatever he's dealing with now probably extends back to when he was a young up and (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jul 21, 14:08:09
- it would seem that way.... and with each 'misdemeanor' (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Jul 21, 14:07:15
- agree! (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jul 21, 14:10:31
- yes, it all seems to reactive rather than preventitive.... (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Jul 21, 14:16:33
- There is, people can be sectioned (and Gazza has in the past) (General Chat) - scruffy, Jul 21, 14:53:10
- When you've got an addiction of that nature (General Chat) - Old Man, Jul 21, 14:14:19
- it's also something that is so much easier to deal with early (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jul 21, 14:21:23
- A hard one, because in early stages (General Chat) - pants, Jul 21, 14:37:29
- it's still quite easy to see when some people's behaviour is starting to (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jul 21, 14:48:33
- A hard one, because in early stages (General Chat) - pants, Jul 21, 14:37:29
- it's also something that is so much easier to deal with early (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jul 21, 14:21:23
- yes, it all seems to reactive rather than preventitive.... (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Jul 21, 14:16:33
- agree! (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jul 21, 14:10:31
- I think someone needs to want to change as well (General Chat) - scruffy, Jul 21, 14:12:51
- He seems beyond help I'm afraid. (n/m) (General Chat) - Hulk Rules, Jul 21, 14:00:21
- seems so. think he's determined to end up like george best. (n/m) (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Jul 21, 14:01:12
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