What undermines my marriage...

...is the general upness of the toilet seat/lid after I've used it in the middle of the night, and my wife's apparent belief that "NESW" on a map refer to "nowhere, everywhere, somewhere, wherever".

I simply can't fathom how two other people who want to make the same commitment we did (some decades ago now) affects me or my marriage remotely, or why other people shouldn't have the same opportunity to make the same commitment to each other we did.

It's not one of those "I disagree with the other side" things. I genuinely and very simply do not understand why anyone would oppose gay marriage. I just don't get it.

Posted By: Old Man on May 21st 2013 at 10:48:46

Message Thread

Right (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, May 21, 10:33:02
- So he's happy to marry his daughter to avoid inheritance tax but not his son (General Chat) - Ben, May 21, 10:56:44
  - Yes, I don't think there's much point in exploring his "logic" here (General Chat) - yarmyyarmy, May 21, 10:58:16
- I can't wait for playtime... (General Chat) - Pixelman, May 21, 10:56:09
- I really can't explain how pleased I am that it is a Tory government that is legislating f (General Chat) - Arizona Bay, May 21, 10:45:52
- I find it funny that the people who are against it (General Chat) - emmaroyds, May 21, 10:39:18
  - What undermines my marriage... (General Chat) - Old Man, May 21, 10:48:46
    - Religion and bigotry (n/m) (General Chat) - duke of york, May 21, 11:04:42
    - Because they're not opposing gay marriage; they're opposing anything gay (General Chat) - BerlinCanary, May 21, 11:02:38
  - I gather problem of Civil Partnerships for all is financial - to do with pensions. (n/m) (General Chat) - trustsec, May 21, 10:47:26
    - It's also not very romantic to say "Darling, would you be my civil partner?" (n/m) (General Chat) - yarmyyarmy, May 21, 10:54:36
  - It's odd people don't realise marriage is basically a religious ritual (General Chat) - harry boulders, May 21, 10:46:02
    - that's bull - it's essentially just a contractual relationship (General Chat) - CWC, May 21, 12:29:07
    - When did it become accepted fact that 'marriage' was started by a religion?? (n/m) (General Chat) - Hertz van Rental, May 21, 11:25:45
    - So Atheists shouldn't be allowed to marry? (General Chat) - yarmyyarmy, May 21, 10:47:58
      - No need to if you think about it. (n/m) (General Chat) - harry boulders, May 21, 10:49:58
        
        No, there's no "need" to, other than certain rights to do with illness/death... (General Chat) - Old Man, May 21, 10:53:54
        
        you have a very black and white way of thinking about it, if you don't mind me saying (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, May 21, 10:51:43
        
        I guess the point is, (General Chat) - harry boulders, May 21, 10:58:28
        
        Why should people have to have the 'equivalent' though? (n/m) (General Chat) - Hertz van Rental, May 21, 11:24:01
        
        ^^^^^ Nail! Hammer! Bosh! ^^^^^^ (n/m) (General Chat) - Knitted Jesus, May 21, 11:09:24
        
        I won't bother with a funeral either. Just bung me in the recycle bin. (n/m) (General Chat) - yarmyyarmy, May 21, 10:55:29
        
        Booked my plot at Colney Wood already - cardboard box straight in ground. (n/m) (General Chat) - trustsec, May 21, 12:47:34
        
        Funerals are about respect for the dead silly. (General Chat) - harry boulders, May 21, 11:01:00
        
        People have non-religious weddings (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, May 21, 11:04:14
        
        But religion invented funerals (General Chat) - yarmyyarmy, May 21, 11:02:03
        
        I'll take the wheelie bin option then ;) (n/m) (General Chat) - harry boulders, May 21, 11:07:37
        
        Fucking jobsworths wouldn't take me, I'd bet (n/m) (General Chat) - yarmyyarmy, May 21, 11:09:15
        
        Funerals aren't for the dead, they're for those left behind (General Chat) - Old Man, May 21, 10:59:54
        
        Well, it is a good idea to sensibly dispose of a dead body for, I hope, obvious reasons (n/m) (General Chat) - BerlinCanary, May 21, 11:05:27
        
        And this ^^^ (n/m) (General Chat) - harry boulders, May 21, 11:01:45
        
        But plenty want to (n/m) (General Chat) - yarmyyarmy, May 21, 10:50:35
    - marriage *was* a religious ritual (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, May 21, 10:47:23
- Speaking as an atheist... (General Chat) - harry boulders, May 21, 10:39:09
  - Why should religion have anything to do with marriage though? (General Chat) - yarmyyarmy, May 21, 10:43:38
    - Because religion invented it. (n/m) (General Chat) - harry boulders, May 21, 10:48:23
      - Things change. Pagans invented many of our Christmas rituals (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, May 21, 10:49:43
  - don't think marriage has to have anything to do with religion (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, May 21, 10:42:37
- Swivel-eyed loon (General Chat) - Old Man, May 21, 10:38:01
- Ha ha. Completely gone mentalist! Good old UKIP mention too. (n/m) (General Chat) - woody, May 21, 10:36:02
- A lesbian Queen (General Chat) - duke of york, May 21, 10:35:31
  - Band name: The Lesbian Queens (n/m) (General Chat) - duke of york, May 21, 10:36:34
    - Or a gay king and a proper queen queen! (n/m) (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, May 21, 10:37:53
      - he's really arguing for a Republic if he actually thought about it. (n/m) (General Chat) - woody, May 21, 10:42:17

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