Exactly what are the figures?

How much is taken from state funds by "benefit scroungers" at the bottom end of the social scale (no matter what the BBC want to call it now) and how much is taken by wealthy fraud?

Yet at whom do the tabloid most point the finger?

And, while I'm at it, has anyone yet devised the perfect social system with no exploitation?

Posted By: APB on April 3rd 2013 at 11:21:56

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Blimey, it's Bleeding Heart Liberal Fury day (General Chat) - Old Git, Apr 3, 11:09:48
- Child benefit should max out at 3 kids... (looking ahead) (General Chat) - phrankin, Apr 3, 11:40:54
  - Total child benefit claimants: 7.9m families (General Chat) - Hertz van Rental, Apr 3, 11:56:17
    - saves 140 million quid (n/m) (General Chat) - phrankin, Apr 3, 12:20:03
      - Is that worth the problems that would come along with such a restriction? (n/m) (General Chat) - Hertz van Rental, Apr 3, 12:27:00
        
        what problems (n/m) (General Chat) - phrankin, Apr 3, 12:37:37
        
        Off the top of my head: (General Chat) - Hertz van Rental, Apr 3, 12:41:39
        
        The masses should be steralized after a maximum 2 or 3 kids (General Chat) - mike_the_sphinx, Apr 3, 12:46:37
        
        we are not living in China... (n/m) (General Chat) - phrankin, Apr 3, 12:47:49
        
        Thank goodness for that eh? All the Communists running around like rabble, breeding and be (General Chat) - Arizona Bay, Apr 3, 13:04:35
        
        ... (General Chat) - phrankin, Apr 3, 13:12:30
        
        Could have fooled me, looking around 90% of everything to hand is made in China. (n/m) (General Chat) - mike_the_sphinx, Apr 3, 12:57:21
        
        That's because people here are to feckin tight to pay for stuff to be made here. Slavery (General Chat) - CB41, Apr 3, 12:59:54
        
        Or mother falls pregnant 'again' everyone else pays 'again'. (General Chat) - phrankin, Apr 3, 12:44:23
        
        *capped the wages at which someone can receive child benefit (n/m) (General Chat) - phrankin, Apr 3, 12:46:41
      - pittance (General Chat) - Brandonio, Apr 3, 12:23:37
        
        could be used as an argument against any cutback (n/m) (General Chat) - phrankin, Apr 3, 12:38:23
        
        Try looking at it as an investment (General Chat) - curva nord, Apr 3, 12:49:02
        
        Population growth in Britain is probably running higher than would be desirable (n/m) (General Chat) - phrankin, Apr 3, 12:50:54
        
        The birth rate in the Old World is in freefall and is declining virtually all over the (General Chat) - CB41, Apr 3, 12:57:42
        
        and.... how is population growth in the UK. (n/m) (General Chat) - phrankin, Apr 3, 12:59:41
        
        Population growth and birth rate are not the same (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Apr 3, 13:01:20
        
        population growth being the important factor. (n/m) (General Chat) - phrankin, Apr 3, 13:02:40
        
        Have you considered euthanasia? (n/m) (General Chat) - curva nord, Apr 3, 13:05:31
        
        great argument (General Chat) - phrankin, Apr 3, 13:16:28
        
        Not an arguement (n/m) (General Chat) - curva nord, Apr 3, 13:22:31
        
        It's a solution, that's what it is. A Final Solution (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Apr 3, 13:24:35
        
        took a while for Godwin to appear (General Chat) - phrankin, Apr 3, 13:31:52
        
        Yebut that's because we aren't lefties, we're bleeding heart liberals. (General Chat) - CB41, Apr 3, 13:38:03
        
        Even I wouldn't vote for the current bunch of clueless Toffs (n/m) (General Chat) - phrankin, Apr 3, 13:39:58
        
        The killing of all youth? Sounds like a plan (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Apr 3, 13:11:39
        
        Just the ones we don't know (n/m) (General Chat) - curva nord, Apr 3, 13:14:32
        
        It should be based on GCSE results (General Chat) - Brandonio, Apr 3, 13:19:54
        
        Too late, they've already wasted shit loads of my taxes by then. Use 11 plus. Of course, (General Chat) - CB41, Apr 3, 13:22:20
        
        Thinking about it some more I think a reality TV show might be the answer (General Chat) - Brandonio, Apr 3, 13:27:11
        
        Putting the End in Endemol. (n/m) (General Chat) - Arizona Bay, Apr 3, 13:32:55
        
        Could use that BBC class thing in the bottom two and your out (n/m) (General Chat) - curva nord, Apr 3, 13:25:32
        
        .... (General Chat) - CB41, Apr 3, 13:31:07
        
        and not, therefore, having anything to do with how many kids should be allowed on welfare. (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Apr 3, 13:04:34
        
        .... (General Chat) - phrankin, Apr 3, 13:05:34
        
        Agreed (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Apr 3, 13:07:36
        
        Fuck me, thank God that Malthus is here to keep an eye on things. (General Chat) - Arizona Bay, Apr 3, 12:57:16
        
        I reckon he's CallmeDave in disguise (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Apr 3, 13:02:16
        
        Because people are living longer, who supports the elderly if not the young? (n/m) (General Chat) - curva nord, Apr 3, 12:53:46
        
        Should large scale population growth be the answer? is it even sustainable or desirable. (General Chat) - phrankin, Apr 3, 12:55:29
        
        Even that is wrong (General Chat) - CB41, Apr 3, 13:16:00
        
        England is not a country in this respect (n/m) (General Chat) - phrankin, Apr 3, 13:17:10
        
        Ummmm, right. (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Apr 3, 13:20:05
        
        Bookies aren?t taking bets that this info comes from an inaccurate Daily Mail article (n/m) (General Chat) - Brandonio, Apr 3, 13:09:06
        
        I think it was The Telegraph (General Chat) - phrankin, Apr 3, 13:14:25
        
        yup (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Apr 3, 13:14:06
        
        BOOOOOOOOOM! (General Chat) - Brandonio, Apr 3, 13:22:26
        
        Welll (General Chat) - phrankin, Apr 3, 13:29:09
        
        indeed (General Chat) - Brandonio, Apr 3, 12:42:22
- You can afford it though OG. Be generous man, it'll free your spirit. (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Apr 3, 11:30:48
- Exactly what are the figures? (General Chat) - APB, Apr 3, 11:21:56
  - I think Hitler and Pol Pot did. Very effective it could be too. (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Apr 3, 11:29:21
- Using the example of one mentalist and an extraordinary situation.. (General Chat) - mr chimp, Apr 3, 11:19:30
- Disingenuous claptrap (General Chat) - norway, Apr 3, 11:18:01
- Don't forget how it makes people kill people too (n/m) (General Chat) - Hertz van Rental, Apr 3, 11:16:31
- I think you'd have a point if everyone was doing it but it looks to me like this is one (General Chat) - Bravo win or die, Apr 3, 11:14:48
- I think it's more the way they've gone about it (n/m) (General Chat) - duke of york, Apr 3, 11:13:41

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