Been away so first chance to comment on Saturday
Which is just as well the mood I was in at the final whistle! Have had a chance to calm down a bit now but still sharing the nerves of several below and firmly believe (as i have for some time) that we will need at least 40 points to stay up.
On the one hand I accept that its a game of fine margins at this level. had Holt scored that pen against Southampton and had Camp made what should have been an easy save then we would have 37 points and be sitting pretty 9 points clear of Wigan and virtually safe. That is no doubt what the Hoot would say if he was party to this discussion and I must give him credit for getting us to the position where even having had a poor run for 3 months we are still in control of our own destiny and more likely than not to stay up.
On the other had, however, i am hugely frustrated that we have allowed ourselves to be dragged back into the relegation scrap and do believe that it is chiefly down to his tactical approach in certain games that we find ourselves looking nervously over our shoulder. there are at least half a dozen games I can think of this season where i think a bit more positivity and we would/could have won them and even if only a couple had come off we would again not be worrying now. I find it hugely frustrating to see the way we play away from home now (last season i believed we could win anywhere, now I don't and I think the players feel the same) and the way we dropped deep in the final third of Saturday's game was another example. I find it highly depressing to see us get breaks in promising positions and end up playing for corners or set pieces because we have nobody in the box to get on the end of crosses. We rarely play badly but we hardly ever play well. Even if we do, we are always one error or moment of genius away from a defeat or being pegged back for a draw as we never give ourselves a cushion in any game.
We now have 7 games left and to be honest if you had to hand pick 4 home games to have left then our 4 would not be far from the top of most lists. We are however at the stage where we need wins not more draws. 2 wins and 5 defeats will probably keep us up (especially if one of the wins is v Villa). 4 or 5 draws and no wins might not do. Time for Hoot to throw off the shackles. each remaining game is like a cup tie although with our record in those perhaps we should not go down that road!
Posted By: Jim on April 2nd 2013 at 15:17:35
Message Thread
- Been away so first chance to comment on Saturday (NCFC) - Jim, Apr 2, 15:17:35
- If the alternative to what we have now is a Villa or QPR-style all-out attack "unlucky" (NCFC) - Higher Wrather, Apr 2, 15:46:53
- compare the attacking talent of our squad with Villa and QPR (NCFC) - usacanary, Apr 2, 18:30:34
- The main problem as I see it, is Hughton is happy as long as we are drawing (NCFC) - phrankin, Apr 2, 16:04:47
- That's bullshit to be fair. Most people just want us to at least go forward a bit more (NCFC) - Hulk Rules, Apr 2, 15:55:34
- It doesn't have to be one or the other though (NCFC) - Jim, Apr 2, 15:54:51
- It ought to, but it depends on how versatile your players are, the quality of the oppositi (NCFC) - Higher Wrather, Apr 2, 16:04:22
- We did it last season (NCFC) - duke of york, Apr 2, 16:16:14
- PL is much harder this season, much tougher opposition (NCFC) - usacanary, Apr 2, 18:33:47
- Saturday as I keep saying is make or break (NCFC) - Brandonio, Apr 2, 16:26:32
- If we lose on Saturday it will be a disgrace (NCFC) - Brandonio, Apr 2, 16:39:31
- The bedwetters? (n/m) (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, Apr 2, 19:10:55
- I was confident we'd do Wigan (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 2, 16:53:10
- Away teams not turning up is what has so many sides with their heads above the water (NCFC) - Brandonio, Apr 2, 16:55:28
- Yeah, to be fair hardly anyone's looked good at CR (NCFC) - duke of york, Apr 2, 16:56:17
- it is a very shit league (NCFC) - Brandonio, Apr 2, 16:57:56
- Just Liverpool and Chelsea really (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 2, 16:57:23
- Yep (n/m) (NCFC) - duke of york, Apr 2, 16:57:56
- Very true (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 2, 16:56:13
- Yeah, to be fair hardly anyone's looked good at CR (NCFC) - duke of york, Apr 2, 16:56:17
- Away teams not turning up is what has so many sides with their heads above the water (NCFC) - Brandonio, Apr 2, 16:55:28
- a pre-seethe!. Personally I'm keeping my powder dry. (n/m) (NCFC) - Higher Wrather, Apr 2, 16:48:19
- Gotta have a chance against a side already looking to the summer holidays (NCFC) - phrankin, Apr 2, 16:41:33
- Finally a tiny glimpse of reality (NCFC) - Old Git, Apr 2, 16:37:06
- Lose Saturday and we could be in real shit, Arsenal away next (NCFC) - phrankin, Apr 2, 16:39:25
- So it's a must-not-lose then? (n/m) (NCFC) - Higher Wrather, Apr 2, 16:42:59
- Home to Reading and WBA who will have nothing to play for (NCFC) - phrankin, Apr 2, 16:52:03
- Nothing to play for: (NCFC) - duke of york, Apr 2, 16:54:22
- nothing to play for away is always a bit different (NCFC) - Brandonio, Apr 2, 16:56:43
- Like Villa last season (NCFC) - duke of york, Apr 2, 16:57:30
- nothing to play for away is always a bit different (NCFC) - Brandonio, Apr 2, 16:56:43
- Nothing to play for: (NCFC) - duke of york, Apr 2, 16:54:22
- Home to Reading and WBA who will have nothing to play for (NCFC) - phrankin, Apr 2, 16:52:03
- So it's a must-not-lose then? (n/m) (NCFC) - Higher Wrather, Apr 2, 16:42:59
- Lose Saturday and we could be in real shit, Arsenal away next (NCFC) - phrankin, Apr 2, 16:39:25
- Yes, win Saturday and we can breathe relatively easily (NCFC) - duke of york, Apr 2, 16:30:21
- If we lose on Saturday it will be a disgrace (NCFC) - Brandonio, Apr 2, 16:39:31
- Agreed. But it's always more difficult in the second season - there's more at stake. (NCFC) - Higher Wrather, Apr 2, 16:23:11
- Holt has had a nightmare in his last 3 sub appearances (n/m) (NCFC) - Brandonio, Apr 2, 16:27:08
- I'd start him though (NCFC) - duke of york, Apr 2, 16:31:07
- Yeah I think we have to play him against Swansea (NCFC) - Brandonio, Apr 2, 16:33:10
- I'd start him though (NCFC) - duke of york, Apr 2, 16:31:07
- Holt doesn't look the same player alone up front (NCFC) - phrankin, Apr 2, 16:25:11
- It's not that though - he hasn't suddenly come to life when he's had a partner (NCFC) - Higher Wrather, Apr 2, 16:30:45
- Struggling for form, playing in a side not suited to him (NCFC) - phrankin, Apr 2, 16:37:52
- We never had an alternative tbf - Hoots should have addressed that. (NCFC) - Higher Wrather, Apr 2, 16:41:52
- True that, none of the others are good enough. (NCFC) - phrankin, Apr 2, 16:43:45
- I always felt Jackson did well in the diamond alongside Holt (NCFC) - Brandonio, Apr 2, 16:46:51
- He is a good little player, and offers something different (NCFC) - phrankin, Apr 2, 16:59:48
- You can't say that,Loz has decided that he's fucking shite... (n/m) (NCFC) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Apr 2, 16:51:21
- Not a prolific goal scorer though (n/m) (NCFC) - Higher Wrather, Apr 2, 16:51:09
- But we scored goals at difficult places with him in the team (NCFC) - Brandonio, Apr 2, 16:52:22
- Yep, agreed. But he needs a goal-scorer to work alongside, so he's no alternative to Holt (NCFC) - Higher Wrather, Apr 2, 16:58:34
- But we scored goals at difficult places with him in the team (NCFC) - Brandonio, Apr 2, 16:52:22
- agree, he looked really good on occasion (n/m) (NCFC) - fal5taff, Apr 2, 16:48:05
- Hardly had a kick, like Fox (NCFC) - duke of york, Apr 2, 16:50:39
- yup, what i don't get is fox new contract. double-think on hughton's part... (n/m) (NCFC) - fal5taff, Apr 2, 16:59:29
- Probably agreed by Lambert? (n/m) (NCFC) - duke of york, Apr 2, 17:00:23
- Hoots picks the central midfield for their defensive abilities, not Fox's forte (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, Apr 2, 17:02:22
- NO. The best form of defence is to keep the ball (NCFC) - Brandonio, Apr 2, 17:04:36
- Agree 100% and said something similar on the Oink 'un this weekend (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, Apr 2, 18:31:47
- NO. The best form of defence is to keep the ball (NCFC) - Brandonio, Apr 2, 17:04:36
- is the only logical explanation i suppose... (n/m) (NCFC) - fal5taff, Apr 2, 17:01:00
- Hoots picks the central midfield for their defensive abilities, not Fox's forte (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, Apr 2, 17:02:22
- Probably agreed by Lambert? (n/m) (NCFC) - duke of york, Apr 2, 17:00:23
- yup, what i don't get is fox new contract. double-think on hughton's part... (n/m) (NCFC) - fal5taff, Apr 2, 16:59:29
- Hardly had a kick, like Fox (NCFC) - duke of york, Apr 2, 16:50:39
- I always felt Jackson did well in the diamond alongside Holt (NCFC) - Brandonio, Apr 2, 16:46:51
- True that, none of the others are good enough. (NCFC) - phrankin, Apr 2, 16:43:45
- We never had an alternative tbf - Hoots should have addressed that. (NCFC) - Higher Wrather, Apr 2, 16:41:52
- Struggling for form, playing in a side not suited to him (NCFC) - phrankin, Apr 2, 16:37:52
- It's not that though - he hasn't suddenly come to life when he's had a partner (NCFC) - Higher Wrather, Apr 2, 16:30:45
- Holt has had a nightmare in his last 3 sub appearances (n/m) (NCFC) - Brandonio, Apr 2, 16:27:08
- No arguably about it. Clearly a less talented side. (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, Apr 2, 16:21:25
- We did it last season (NCFC) - duke of york, Apr 2, 16:16:14
- It ought to, but it depends on how versatile your players are, the quality of the oppositi (NCFC) - Higher Wrather, Apr 2, 16:04:22
- spot on (n/m) (NCFC) - ede, Apr 2, 15:21:34
- well said but 5 draws will comfortably do (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 2, 15:20:59
- % comfortably, 3 will be enough. Important thing is to avoid losing (n/m) (NCFC) - CB41, Apr 2, 15:27:47
- %??? - *5* (n/m) (NCFC) - CB41, Apr 2, 15:28:28
- % comfortably, 3 will be enough. Important thing is to avoid losing (n/m) (NCFC) - CB41, Apr 2, 15:27:47
- If the alternative to what we have now is a Villa or QPR-style all-out attack "unlucky" (NCFC) - Higher Wrather, Apr 2, 15:46:53
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