ah yes, the simplistic view
maybe if you actually believe that and aren't trolling, then you should inform yourself, because the death penalty is massively flawed. Simple as that
1) Executions are carried out at staggering cost to taxpayers.
It costs far more to execute a person than to keep him or her in prison for life. A 2011 study found that California has spent more than $4 billion on capital punishment since it was reinstated in 1978 and that death penalty trials are 20 times more expensive than trials seeking a sentence of life in prison without possibility of parole. California currently spends $184 million on the death penalty each year and is on track to spend $1 billion in the next five years.
2) There is no credible evidence that capital punishment deters crime.
Scientific studies have consistently failed to demonstrate that executions deter people from committing crime anymore than long prison sentences. Moreover, states without the death penalty have much lower murder rates. The South accounts for 80% of US executions and has the highest regional murder rate.
3) Innocent people have been convicted and executed.
The wrongful execution of an innocent person is an injustice that can never be rectified. Since the reinstatement of the death penalty, 140 men and women have been released from Death Row nationally....some only minutes away from execution. Moreover, in the past two years evidence has come to light which indicates that four men may have been wrongfully EXECUTED in recent years for crimes they did not commit. This error rate is simply appalling, and completely unacceptable, when we are talking about life and death.
4) Race plays a role in determining who lives and who dies.
The race of the victim and the race of the defendant in capital cases are major factors in determining who is sentenced to die in this country. In 1990 a report from the General Accounting Office concluded that "in 82 percent of the studies [reviewed], race of the victim was found to influence the likelihood of being charged with capital murder or receiving the death penalty, i.e. those who murdered whites were more likely to be sentenced to death than those who murdered blacks."
5) The death penalty is applied at random.
Politics, quality of legal counsel and the jurisdiction where a crime is committed are more often the determining factors in a death penalty case than the facts of the crime itself. The death penalty is a lethal lottery: of the 22,000 homicides committed every year approximately 150 people are sentenced to death.
6) Capital punishment goes against almost every religion.
Although isolated passages of religious scripture have been quoted in support of the death penalty, almost all religious groups in the United States regard executions as immoral.
7) The USA is keeping company with notorious human rights abusers.
The vast majority of countries in Western Europe, North America and South America ? more than 139 nations worldwide ? have abandoned capital punishment in law or in practice. The United States remains in the same company as Iraq, Iran and China as one of the major advocates and users of capital punishment.
8) Millions currently spent on the death penalty could be used to assist the families of murder victims.
Many family members who have lost love ones to murder feel that the death penalty will not heal their wounds nor will it end their pain; the extended process prior to executions can prolong the agony experienced by the family. Funds now being used for the costly process of executions could be used to help families put their lives back together through counseling, restitution, crime victim hotlines, and other services addressing their needs.
9) Bad Lawyers are a Persistent Problem in Capital Cases
Perhaps the most important factor in determining whether a defendant will receive the death penalty is the quality of the representation he or she is provided. Almost all defendants in capital cases cannot afford their own attorneys. In many cases, the appointed attorneys are overworked, underpaid, or lacking the trial experience required for death penalty cases. There have even been instances in which lawyers appointed to a death case were so inexperienced that they were completely unprepared for the sentencing phase of the trial. Other appointed attorneys have slept through parts of the trial, or arrived at the court under the influence of alcohol.
10) Life Without Parole is a Sensible Alternative to the Death Penalty
In every state that retains the death penalty, jurors have the option of sentencing convicted capital murderers to life in prison without the possibility of parole. The sentence is cheaper to tax-payers and keeps violent offenders off the streets for good. Unlike the death penalty, a sentence of Life Without Parole also allows mistakes to be corrected. There are currently over 3,300 people in California who have received this alternative sentence, which also has a more limited appeals process last approximately 3 years. According to the California Governor's Office, only seven people sentenced to life without parole have been released since the state provided for this option in 1977, and this occurred because they were able to prove their innocence.
Posted By: Worzel Scrimmage on February 19th 2013 at 15:32:00
Message Thread
- Pistorius (NCFC) - Jim, Feb 19, 15:10:47
- Surely it would be normal to 'give it five minutes' before entering the bathroom? (n/m) (NCFC) - UtterlyHuckerby, Feb 19, 16:16:29
- I think he is innocent now. (NCFC) - Pit, Feb 19, 16:01:38
- I'm not Columbo but how did he kick the door open? (n/m) (NCFC) - Pixelman, Feb 19, 15:34:08
- ....or so I thought (n/m) (NCFC) - Pit, Feb 19, 15:37:57
- i thought he said he used the cricket bat (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Feb 19, 15:35:40
- He did (n/m) (NCFC) - duke of york, Feb 19, 15:46:50
- How many runs did he get ? (n/m) (NCFC) - Pit, Feb 19, 15:59:36
- He did (n/m) (NCFC) - duke of york, Feb 19, 15:46:50
- he's fucked. clearly wasn't in mortal danger from someone in the bathroom (NCFC) - Worzel Scrimmage, Feb 19, 15:19:46
- Clearly the arguments will run and run (n/m) (NCFC) - Pit, Feb 19, 15:33:36
- yes, it's a depressing thought (NCFC) - Worzel Scrimmage, Feb 19, 15:39:29
- i reckon, given the neighbours heard them arguing.... big argument, he threatened her, she (NCFC) - Tony Martin, Feb 19, 15:24:02
- so much doesn't add up. Of course if it's her blood on the bat, then it's game over (NCFC) - Worzel Scrimmage, Feb 19, 15:27:50
- or he's just evil (NCFC) - SCC 28, Feb 19, 15:30:38
- so much doesn't add up. Of course if it's her blood on the bat, then it's game over (NCFC) - Worzel Scrimmage, Feb 19, 15:27:50
- a shame south africa abolished the death penalty (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Feb 19, 15:20:33
- I had to look that up the other day. I wondered if he might get the noose (NCFC) - Worzel Scrimmage, Feb 19, 15:21:55
- Short rope. (n/m) (NCFC) - tudders, Feb 19, 15:25:34
- broken civilisation yeah (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Feb 19, 15:24:16
- only a civilisation of cretins would continue using a punishment that doesn't work (n/m) (NCFC) - Worzel Scrimmage, Feb 19, 15:25:59
- s (n/m) (NCFC) - yarmyyarmy, Feb 19, 15:34:49
- erm it kills the perpetrator (NCFC) - SCC 28, Feb 19, 15:27:33
- Sometimes (n/m) (NCFC) - yarmyyarmy, Feb 19, 15:35:33
- ah yes, the simplistic view (NCFC) - Worzel Scrimmage, Feb 19, 15:32:00
- wtf does religion have to do with anything? (NCFC) - SCC 28, Feb 19, 15:35:24
- because incredible though it sounds, most people do believe in god (NCFC) - Worzel Scrimmage, Feb 19, 15:41:37
- Most people where? (n/m) (NCFC) - duke of york, Feb 19, 15:47:59
- most of the population of the planet (n/m) (NCFC) - Worzel Scrimmage, Feb 19, 15:50:11
- Oh I see (NCFC) - duke of york, Feb 19, 15:51:14
- yep, it's amazing when you think about it (n/m) (NCFC) - Worzel Scrimmage, Feb 19, 15:56:00
- Oh I see (NCFC) - duke of york, Feb 19, 15:51:14
- most of the population of the planet (n/m) (NCFC) - Worzel Scrimmage, Feb 19, 15:50:11
- most kids believe in father xmas (NCFC) - SCC 28, Feb 19, 15:42:42
- Maybe so, but it's hypocrisy even so. And what about the other arguments?? (n/m) (NCFC) - Worzel Scrimmage, Feb 19, 15:46:30
- cor, that clock sounds so loud when there's total silence (NCFC) - Worzel Scrimmage, Feb 19, 16:41:38
- you were making less and less sense (NCFC) - SCC 28, Feb 19, 17:13:21
- I maintained the same points and you have no argument to support your childish views (n/m) (NCFC) - Worzel Scrimmage, Feb 19, 17:35:19
- you have no argument to support your libtard views (NCFC) - SCC 28, Feb 19, 17:51:13
- stop talking shit ffs. You can't even explain why you think the way you do! Hilarious! (NCFC) - Worzel Scrimmage, Feb 19, 17:55:09
- zzzzzzzzzzzzz stop trolling me please (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Feb 19, 18:01:01
- it's like arguing with a fundamentalist (NCFC) - Worzel Scrimmage, Feb 19, 18:49:10
- you're the retard who prefers criminals to victims (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Feb 19, 19:00:50
- it's like arguing with a fundamentalist (NCFC) - Worzel Scrimmage, Feb 19, 18:49:10
- zzzzzzzzzzzzz stop trolling me please (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Feb 19, 18:01:01
- stop talking shit ffs. You can't even explain why you think the way you do! Hilarious! (NCFC) - Worzel Scrimmage, Feb 19, 17:55:09
- you have no argument to support your libtard views (NCFC) - SCC 28, Feb 19, 17:51:13
- I maintained the same points and you have no argument to support your childish views (n/m) (NCFC) - Worzel Scrimmage, Feb 19, 17:35:19
- you were making less and less sense (NCFC) - SCC 28, Feb 19, 17:13:21
- cor, that clock sounds so loud when there's total silence (NCFC) - Worzel Scrimmage, Feb 19, 16:41:38
- Maybe so, but it's hypocrisy even so. And what about the other arguments?? (n/m) (NCFC) - Worzel Scrimmage, Feb 19, 15:46:30
- Most people where? (n/m) (NCFC) - duke of york, Feb 19, 15:47:59
- because incredible though it sounds, most people do believe in god (NCFC) - Worzel Scrimmage, Feb 19, 15:41:37
- wtf does religion have to do with anything? (NCFC) - SCC 28, Feb 19, 15:35:24
- only a civilisation of cretins would continue using a punishment that doesn't work (n/m) (NCFC) - Worzel Scrimmage, Feb 19, 15:25:59
- I had to look that up the other day. I wondered if he might get the noose (NCFC) - Worzel Scrimmage, Feb 19, 15:21:55
- Clearly the arguments will run and run (n/m) (NCFC) - Pit, Feb 19, 15:33:36
- Clearly unbalanced when his legs aren't atached (n/m) (NCFC) - yarmyyarmy, Feb 19, 15:19:36
- lol, that'd be a more believable defence (n/m) (NCFC) - Worzel Scrimmage, Feb 19, 15:20:41
- who shuts and locks the bathroom door when its just them and their partner in the house?! (n/m) (NCFC) - Tony Martin, Feb 19, 15:17:34
- We don't have a lock on the bathroom door. Code: door open = having a wee, come on in; (NCFC) - Arizona Bay, Feb 19, 15:42:26
- ANYONE having a shit? (n/m) (NCFC) - norway, Feb 19, 15:31:06
- vmt (n/m) (NCFC) - duke of york, Feb 19, 15:32:01
- i do if its just me in the house (NCFC) - ghostof barry butler, Feb 19, 15:30:21
- Blimey I do sometimes. Thanks for the warning. (n/m) (NCFC) - Bravo win or die, Feb 19, 15:21:13
- just goes to show that guns should not be freely available (NCFC) - ghostof barry butler, Feb 19, 15:15:23
- he'd have only murdered her with the cricket bat tbf (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Feb 19, 15:16:27
- if thats what he wanted to do (NCFC) - ghostof barry butler, Feb 19, 15:29:18
- he'd have only murdered her with the cricket bat tbf (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Feb 19, 15:16:27
- hmmm maybe he murdered her after all (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Feb 19, 15:12:21
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