"He's a good shot-stopper, but doesn't command his area" is one of the canards of amateur

punditry. Probably true for 95% of keepers all of the time and 100% of keepers some of the time.

Posted By: Board Police on February 3rd 2013 at 19:20:13

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Just scrolled back through yesterday's posts. The salivating from the Bunn haters (NCFC) - Common Sense Police, Feb 3, 18:41:01
- It's Moro all over again. (n/m) (NCFC) - I Am Hoot, Feb 3, 20:59:46
- The difference for me with Bunn is all of a sudden his starting position is a step outside (NCFC) - Malkybarneedledick, Feb 3, 20:49:36
  - To be that exact you've studied that piece of play closely,i'd be interested (NCFC) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Feb 3, 21:53:08
    - * see*. (n/m) (NCFC) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Feb 3, 21:53:46
  - Cesar was doing similar things (and often does) but is considered top class. (NCFC) - Common Sense Police, Feb 3, 20:55:49
    - What I mean is he wasn't commanding his area (just to clarify) (n/m) (NCFC) - Common Sense Police, Feb 3, 21:01:11
- It really bugs me when humans can't begin to consider that footballers are as well (NCFC) - pants, Feb 3, 20:19:17
  - Could we extend that same Christian value to officials as well? (NCFC) - tudders, Feb 3, 20:30:50
    - I said the ref on the man city game was excellent before kick off (NCFC) - pants, Feb 3, 20:58:25
  - I was guilty of that with Turner. Lessons learnt, etc. (n/m) (NCFC) - Common Sense Police, Feb 3, 20:23:02
- well.........you know........... (NCFC) - usacanary, Feb 3, 20:18:12
  - He got game. m'ol bewdy. (n/m) (NCFC) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Feb 3, 20:22:12
- bunn has been excellent last 2 games, big improvement (n/m) (NCFC) - Buford T Justice, Feb 3, 19:55:38
  - Two words........ Lee Camp........... (NCFC) - usacanary, Feb 3, 20:19:27
    - last para (NCFC) - Higher Wrather, Feb 3, 21:55:03
    - Is David Lee camp? (NCFC) - jafski, Feb 3, 20:23:16
      - Are you suggesting he's some kind of whitesnake,mr cake? (n/m) (NCFC) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Feb 3, 20:46:22
        
        Or is that david lee roth,if it is ,i reckun yu orta ignore wot i jusr sed. (n/m) (NCFC) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Feb 3, 20:48:09
    - Bunn was solid against Newcastle to be fair. (NCFC) - Common Sense Police, Feb 3, 20:22:19
      - im not........ I think he has been pretty solid overall.......obviously........ (NCFC) - usacanary, Feb 3, 20:24:04
  - Think he has commanded his area a lot better in last 2 games (NCFC) - Klobo04, Feb 3, 20:15:32
- the only person I have said is poor this season is Garrido and I stand by that (NCFC) - South_West_Canary, Feb 3, 19:27:11
  - Do hope Garrido picks up again, he was excellent early part of the season. (n/m) (NCFC) - DrDublin, Feb 3, 19:37:29
    - ^^^ This....... I thought he was excellent during our good run but...... (NCFC) - usacanary, Feb 3, 20:26:32
  - I have to be honest enough that I was wrong about Turner (NCFC) - Common Sense Police, Feb 3, 19:31:11
    - Agree, same here (NCFC) - essexcanaryOTBC, Feb 3, 23:25:40
- Another thing that made me laugh was people saying "finally Bunn has a solid game". (NCFC) - Common Sense Police, Feb 3, 18:55:44
  - Joe Hart looked shitter in the Man City, it was a bad day for GK?s (n/m) (NCFC) - Brandonio, Feb 3, 18:58:42
    - Had a poor season. (n/m) (NCFC) - Common Sense Police, Feb 3, 19:00:24
      - Shame for Ruddy really as he was in top form,if he'd have played in sweden i think (NCFC) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Feb 3, 19:06:56
        
        Either Ruddy or Forster deserved that chance. (NCFC) - Common Sense Police, Feb 3, 19:09:13
        
        The Forster thing did my nut in,i went to his debut at Hartlepool,thought this kid is good (NCFC) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Feb 3, 19:17:32
        
        Fielding and Loach are mediocre at best. (NCFC) - Common Sense Police, Feb 3, 19:23:37
        
        Exactly,i am 6ft 3, was considered big when i played but the keepers now are enormous. (NCFC) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Feb 3, 19:31:04
        
        It is true. Unfortunately people expect keepers to perform like Robots. (n/m) (NCFC) - Common Sense Police, Feb 3, 19:35:29
      - Ruddy was the best English keeper in the country up to his injury, IMO (n/m) (NCFC) - mr chimp, Feb 3, 19:04:54
        
        Probably the best keepr in the country in general, hence why we were spoilt. (n/m) (NCFC) - Common Sense Police, Feb 3, 19:05:36
  - He looked well dodgy in his first few games for us. (NCFC) - phrankin, Feb 3, 18:57:35
    - Two good performances in the league cup plus Saints away was his first few games (NCFC) - Common Sense Police, Feb 3, 18:59:30
      - Is this some commie style re-writing of what happened this season (NCFC) - phrankin, Feb 3, 19:06:24
        
        Are you saying he was shit in the league games and Saints away? (n/m) (NCFC) - Common Sense Police, Feb 3, 19:07:14
        
        *league cup. Eurgh! (n/m) (NCFC) - Common Sense Police, Feb 3, 19:09:52
        
        This is a pointless conversation. The guy looked ropey for a while. (NCFC) - phrankin, Feb 3, 19:12:44
        
        Not disputing that he made errors, but to say that he had a "bad start" is nonsense (NCFC) - Common Sense Police, Feb 3, 19:21:25
        
        excellent performances? I don't remember them being anything special (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, Feb 3, 19:23:28
        
        Spurs in the league cup? Saints away? Wigan at home? West Ham away? (n/m) (NCFC) - Common Sense Police, Feb 3, 19:26:36
- So.you think certain people on here would rather be proved right in their negative opinion (NCFC) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Feb 3, 18:44:36
  - I'm starting to think that with some people, yes. (n/m) (NCFC) - Common Sense Police, Feb 3, 18:45:41
- His main weakness is on crosses. The defenders just need to take charge more often. (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, Feb 3, 18:43:59
  - How many prem keepers are actually good on crosses? (NCFC) - Common Sense Police, Feb 3, 18:47:09
    - "He's a good shot-stopper, but doesn't command his area" is one of the canards of amateur (NCFC) - Board Police, Feb 3, 19:20:13
      - Exactly! (n/m) (NCFC) - Common Sense Police, Feb 3, 19:27:18
      - Oh fuck off. (NCFC) - Board Police, Feb 3, 19:22:56
    - Why do they always punch the ball these days and not catch? Drivces me up the wall. (n/m) (NCFC) - DrDublin, Feb 3, 18:51:39
      - silly swervy balls (n/m) (NCFC) - Huge Small, Feb 3, 18:56:44
        
        fishface (n/m) (NCFC) - Sugbad The Bad, Feb 3, 18:57:15
      - The modern ball is so light, it is no easy to catch (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, Feb 3, 18:55:13
        
        Maybe Phran but sometimes, catching seems the less dangerous option. (n/m) (NCFC) - DrDublin, Feb 3, 18:56:49
        
        and if it goes wrong, much of the time you get the foul anyway. (n/m) (NCFC) - DrDublin, Feb 3, 18:57:36
    - Ours - John Ruddy - which is probably why Bunn flapping caused such consternation (NCFC) - phrankin, Feb 3, 18:50:22
      - Wasn't always the case. My main beef with the Bunn-haters is that Ruddy looked just as (NCFC) - Higher Wrather, Feb 3, 19:01:34
      - Which just goes to show that we're spoit and have ridiculous expectations (NCFC) - Common Sense Police, Feb 3, 18:51:42
        
        Spoilt?? It goes to show that Bunn has a weakness, the team needed to adapt. (NCFC) - phrankin, Feb 3, 18:53:53
        
        We're spolit because we ACTUALLY have a keeper who can deal with crosses (NCFC) - Common Sense Police, Feb 3, 18:57:53
        
        it just is not ... after his first few games many posters were questioning his ability (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, Feb 3, 19:00:15
        
        Yeah, because people got used to having a keeper in world class form (NCFC) - Common Sense Police, Feb 3, 19:04:48
        
        i dont think good keepers make "regular mistakes" (NCFC) - phrankin, Feb 3, 19:21:21
        
        Name these keepers that don't make mistakes in the prem then! lol (n/m) (NCFC) - Common Sense Police, Feb 3, 19:28:43
        
        you seem to imply that all premiership keepers are making regular mistakes. (NCFC) - phrankin, Feb 3, 20:31:04
        
        Okay, I'll answer my own question: (NCFC) - Common Sense Police, Feb 3, 20:53:47
    - what happened to Gomes at Spuds? (NCFC) - Sugbad The Bad, Feb 3, 18:50:04
  - When Ruddy is fit, does he come straight back in? Suppose he has to but seems a bit unfai (n/m) (NCFC) - DrDublin, Feb 3, 18:45:22
    - straight back in. Bunn is much improved, but Ruddy has been one of our star performers. (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, Feb 3, 18:45:59
      - Yeah suppose (n/m) (NCFC) - DrDublin, Feb 3, 18:46:59
    - r (n/m) (NCFC) - DrDublin, Feb 3, 18:45:36

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